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Old 11-21-2021, 06:04 PM
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good job !
2 more things out of the way.
dave

Yeah, still plugging away slowly, Dave.
I had a pretty bad tranny fluid leak, tracked it down to the band adjustment on the driver side, so took off the locking nut and put some goop on the adjuster threads. Not the actual tranny, but I circled the problem to help anyone else. And the adjustment procedure on it is to loosen the locknut so it doesn't interfere with your later torque sequence, then tighten the square adjustment knob to 72 inch lbs, then loosen the square adjustment knob 2 and 1/2 turns, then tighten that locknut back down while keeping the square adjustment knob stationary:
727_shifter_detail by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Also decided it's time to start taking apart the fan and pulleys up front to clean and paint. Fan wasn't too bad, mostly just 33 years of crud. Cleaned the nuts and bolts with wire wheel, all looks brand new now:
PXL_20211121_215833291 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Cleaned this up with my wire brush, still in excellent shape:
PXL_20211121_215838580 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

Last edited by MysticRob : 01-13-2022 at 06:53 PM.
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Old 11-22-2021, 12:00 PM
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:44 AM
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Looking for advice re: Vapor Recovery Lines

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My original charcoal canister had a broken nipple on the far left raised cap so I bought a good donor from the salvage yard recently and installed it instead:
PXL_20210517_152556740 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Hey MysticRob, I have recently found an original charcoal canister & am looking to add it back to my 1990 GW, but am unsure where the lines need to go. Am also running GM TBI, but all of the emissions vacuum switches have been removed. Can you say where the Dist & PCV lines are running to?
1. I see the PCV line has a splitter in it - is it running straight to the PCV on one end & PCV connection on TBI on the other?
2. Not sure where the DIST line is going. Am thinking I will need to run this one to manifold vacuum on the front of the TBI.

To add to the confusion, I have 2 lines - pictured below that run down the firewall to 2 hard lines that go to the fuel tank vent. In the pic above, you seem to have one going to your tank vent that is running under the fan box.

My tank vent lines:


Thanks.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:48 AM
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Hey, Theodore.
The 2 hoses connected to the fuel tank and transmission you posted goes to the canister port just next to the capped port on the end, per the diagram.
I later reran that tank/tranny hose up the back of the block and over the valve cover to keep it away from the exhaust manifold, like how you have it.
From the looks of it, you'll want to replace those old nasty hoses too.
Use this to help:

Howell Vacuum Diagram by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 11-24-2021, 03:54 AM
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Thanks, Rob - was what I was looking for. Once I get the lines/ connectors found/sourced, will be business.
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Old 11-27-2021, 10:10 PM
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Tackling more pulleys today. Water pump pulley was pretty nasty, had a ton of old oil and rust on the inside, so used my 90* cordless with wire wheel attachments to get in there and in the belt grooves:
PXL_20211127_233200360 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

The outside of the pulley:
PXL_20211127_233208229 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Water pump still needs wire wheeled prior to painting. Both fan/alternator/AC compressor belts are in surprisingly good shape, power steering belt needs replaced:
PXL_20211127_233542798 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Not sure the AC compressor even works, but figured I'd clean the pulley just in case I get lucky:
PXL_20211128_001033788 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
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Old 11-29-2021, 01:48 PM
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Old 12-02-2021, 05:44 PM
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Finished sanding, taping, and painting all the pulleys, and put the fan back on. Pay no attention to the distributor, it'll be replaced with a nice billet HEI at some point:
PXL_20211202_230002591 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Alternator/AC belts were still in great shape, but were a bit loose, so I cleaned them, lined them up, and leveraged the alternator over with a long 3/8" extension to tighten them up. Power steering belt was cracked so bought a new one:
PXL_20211202_230652007 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 01-08-2022, 12:07 AM
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Back to the grind on the old girl.
She developed a pretty bad transmission fluid leak recently between the tranny and transfer case when winter hit, and on the xfer case output shaft yoke securing the rear drive shaft.
Out came the transfer case out to diagnose and change all the suspect seals. This was all my own fault, as I should've put new seals in when I had the tranny and xfer case out to put new freeze plugs in the rear of the engine months ago.
Easily diagnosed a bad transmission output shaft seal that caused the really big leak:
PXL_20220106_015930266 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Went to Napa and got the 3 seals I needed to ensure no more leaks.
Part #s as follows:

transmission output shaft seal = 19211:
PXL_20220107_213022029 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

transfer case input shaft seal = 19244:
PXL_20220106_222630168 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

transfer case output shaft seal = 18662:
PXL_20220107_200346245 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Also verified the xfer case output shaft yoke seal was nice and pliable so cleaned it up, gooped up the threads with some gasket maker, and put the yoke nut back on:
PXL_20220107_201844197 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 01-13-2022, 11:14 PM
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The driver side wing window vertical rubber weather strip was in very bad shape, with pieces torn off it, but still very pliable. Got new strips and riveted one in last weekend. Passenger side was still perfect, so didn't need to replace that one:
PXL_20220113_171157614 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
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My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877
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Old 01-15-2022, 06:10 AM
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The corrosion and surface rust on the brake booster had always bothered me. I tried to remove the bolts from inside the cab and from the pedestal to get the booster out and paint it black, but ALL the nuts proved impossible to loosen so I just took my wire wheel and some 150 grit wet sandpaper to the entire thing as it sat in the engine bay, then gave it a light coat of WD40 and white lithium grease to keep oxidation at bay:
PXL_20220114_215541709.MP by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 01-17-2022, 12:39 AM
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Had yet another transmission fluid leak up front and knew it was the old hoses to the transmission cooler, so took the grill off again and ran a couple new 3/8" hoses and new clamps from the cooler:
PXL_20220117_020156637 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Terminated one end of the 3/8" hose to the bottom of the radiator, but will wait on terminating the 2nd line till after I get my new salvage yard transmission cooler hardlines installed. Got very lucky those OEM hardlines were still on the wrecked 89 at the yard. Reason for using new hardlines is some dumbarse either switched the original lines around, and thus did a bunch of extra bending and curving of those lines, or used lines out of a completely different vehicle, because they didn't route well under the beast at all.
Examples of existing and wrong hardlines -- this front hardline has weird bends and rubs all over the bell housing. Correct front hardline should just drop down from the nipple at an angle toward the front of the transmission pan.
The rear hardline had rubbed on something before and almost had a hole rubbed through it:
PXL_20220114_222111232 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Existing rear hardline goes under the transmission pan at odd angles, and rub in spots, which is wrong. The front just hangs at odd angles. Both the front and rear OEM hardlines route just in front of the pan and are tucked up to make transmission maintenance easier:
PXL_20220114_222005755 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Existing hardlines just split up and go all over the place under the engine too. OEM lines are run together most of the way and are joined with "S" clamps to keep them close and free of rubbing, etc, till they get to the front and split up to reach the driver side of the radiator and the transmission cooler on the passenger side:
PXL_20220114_221940146 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 01-17-2022, 03:21 PM
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Was able to find a 5/16" hardline to 3/8" hose adapter so got both new hardlines placed, "S" clamped, and run from the transmission to the terminations up front. Flared one line to get a hose clamp secured mo' better, but I think it looks pretty good now and won't rub any holes anywhere:

From the transmission:
PXL_20220117_205226501 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Coming forward:
PXL_20220117_205216812 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Compression fittings tight and secured:
PXL_20220117_205211361 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

The bend up under the crank pulley going to the bottom of the radiator:
PXL_20220117_205207317 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Other hardline going up to the transmission cooler, and 2nd hose routing to the radiator:
PXL_20220117_205203138 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
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https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877
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Old 01-17-2022, 05:56 PM
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That is so nice!! I love nicely Tucked trans lines like that!
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Old 01-18-2022, 12:12 AM
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That is so nice!! I love nicely Tucked trans lines like that!

Thanks, Marc. At this point you might actually get to see it in Boise.
Now if I could just make everything else under there look as good. I should've painted that darn trans pan when I had it out last time, but those old lines were always in the way and would've just scratched it all up. Next time!
Also would like to sand and paint that hideous engine oil pan at some point but I'm leaving well enough alone for now.
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Old 01-18-2022, 06:57 PM
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Finally got the under hood light mounted and verified that it turns on when hood is open, and turns off when hood is closed:
PXL_20220118_203332951 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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Old 01-23-2022, 09:32 PM
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Very nice job on your rig! Looks great.
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Old 01-24-2022, 12:07 AM
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Very nice job on your rig! Looks great.

Thanks, she's getting there slowly.
Still doing mostly cosmetic things, though I'd like to get the steering gear done, A/C working at some point this spring, and clean up some underside things.
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My build thread:
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Old 01-24-2022, 07:34 PM
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Just read through this entire thread (been a while since I've spent much time on here). Awesome work!
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Old 01-26-2022, 03:01 AM
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Just read through this entire thread (been a while since I've spent much time on here). Awesome work!

Thanks, I look back at it occasionally and can't believe how much I've done to it.
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