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Old 12-16-2009, 03:58 PM
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AutoPal Headlights E-Code and H4 Conversion

Mine just arrived!!! I'll be taking pictures tonight so I can show before and after.

The funny thing is that if I buy Sylvania SilverStar bulbs, they cost as much as the lights I just bought!

Anyone else have these in your FSJ?
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:50 PM
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:55 PM
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I have 5 3/4 round Hella H1s in my 528es. Twice as nice as the old seal beams.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:36 PM
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Cool, waiting for see the difference.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:34 PM
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I took some "before" pictures last night.

I installed the new lights today. One of the H4 bulbs didn't turn on. It looked like a bad solder joint, so I plugged in the iron and got out the flux and solder.

Nothing. Nada. Zip. Whatever the rear plugs are made of does NOT want to take any solder. I'm guessing it's higher temp solder than usual in order to resist the heat from the bulb. But it wouldn't adhere to the metal tab or the wire.

So, I went and got a set of NEW H4 Silverstar bulbs. (Yes, the ones that cost as much as the headlight conversion kit itself!) I had a coupon, so it didn't hurt as much, and I will use the other good Autopal bulb as a spare.

I thought it was funny that the Silverstar package claims 30% more light. That's BS. I put my light meter up to the lens surface with the Autopal bulb in and compared it. They both put out the same amount of light which is what you would expect since they are both the same wattage bulb.

I like them since they are color balanced for daylight.

I will aim then this evening and take more pictures.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:57 PM
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How are you going to aim them? I just put round lights on my rig (cause all Jeeps should have round lights) and I am wondering how to aim them properly. Looking forward to seeing the pictures.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:45 PM
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Here's the simplest description of aiming them.

http://www.midstatedmc.com/tech/aim.htm

The SHORT version is that at 25 feet away, the top of the cutoff beam should be 3 inches BELOW the centerline of the headlight. Where the passenger side of the beam started to rise (forming a V shape) should be at the horizontal centerline of the headlight.

I like this part: "It is not necessary to draw "(c)" and "(v)" on the wall--just plot the points." LOL!!
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:53 PM
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I have them on my DD XJ & have planned on putting them on my J20. I mentioned them on here a few months back but no one seemed to respond.

You will LOVE them compared to stock. Nice sharp cut off & beam pattern. Best head light bang for the buck out there.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:14 PM
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I shot the "after" pix this evening. But my OEMs were so mis-aligned, the comparison isn't even close!

I'm going to take new pictures and swap out the lights all at the same time for a true comparison.

Interestingly, however, my light meter shows that the silverstars throw LESS light (measured at the brightest spot)at 10 feet vs. the OEM halogens. But I think it also reflects the differences in the beam pattern.

More to come after the weekend...
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:06 AM
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I like my AutoPals:
Low-buck H4 Headlight Conversion Now W/Pics
Been running them for close to 4 years now.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:31 PM
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Don't remember where this came from, maybe here, but with all the interest in headlight upgrades this seemed a good time and place to post this...made a big difference. Along with H4s. It shows four lights but the relay wiring is the same.
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