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Old 09-08-2006, 07:00 PM
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square to round headlights....which buckets to use?

I went from a square headlight muscle grille to a rhino grille a few months ago, and my headlights have been held in with zip ties ever since. Which round headlight buckets will line up with the tabs for my square lights? The zip ties cause for a lot of headlight bouncing....
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:03 PM
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I believe you have to weld in new tabs to mount round headlights, or swap in a different front panel from an older round headlighted rig. But I don't for sure, just remember reading something along these lines somewhere.
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:48 PM
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fwiw...I gave up and welded mine in...probably not the best solution...but it works
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I remember reading that it is possible to combine the square backing piece with tabs to the front round bucket and mount it that way-
ie if you look at the bucket they are actaully 2 pieces, the part that hold the headlight and the part that mounts to the truck.
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:05 PM
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I think Stacy used CJ5 lights on the bargan beater, I would have to check the episode to be sure.
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:06 PM
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I think Stacy used CJ5 lights on the bargan beater, I would have to check the episode to be sure.

He did, CJ5/CJ7 lights, trim rings and buckets. But then he had to weld those little tabs in place to mount the lights because AMC made the hole bigger to fit the square headlights in.
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:52 PM
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I remember reading that it is possible to combine the square backing piece with tabs to the front round bucket and mount it that way-
ie if you look at the bucket they are actaully 2 pieces, the part that hold the headlight and the part that mounts to the truck.
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No that doesn't work, the tabs on the rectangular light buckets are deeper than those on the round ones. At least on the '74 J-10 stuff I have for my '79 Chero. I'm swapping the '74 razor for the '79 pignose grille and the not round lamp buckets are deeper to accomodate the bigger bulb. The hole in the header panel for the bucket is also a bit bigger on the later model.

Looks like I'm going to weld in tabs.
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:42 AM
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square to round

I changed from square to round lights on the 77 I had, I swapped in an older pannel from a 75. Unbolted pretty easy. removing the bumper helped a lot.
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The header panel replacement works good, but more work than I wanted to do. I used furniture repair straps, little galvanized metal straps. These became the brackets for three of the mounts and one of them on the 70s round bucket actually fit the original square headlight style header on my 88. Had to bend the straps a bit to fit the contour. Works!

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Good idea Flint. I'll have to try that one.



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Old 09-09-2006, 01:15 PM
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I know a couple things... Whoa now, I didn't say Rhino!

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Old 09-09-2006, 01:45 PM
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Thats what this post is about though.



Just messin' with ya, but that sure is a pretty grille.
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Old 09-09-2006, 05:32 PM
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Well, guess I could go ahead and add my 2 cents worth.

Heres how I did mine. I put a rhino on my 79, I am useing CJ headlight buckets and trim rings. I had no welder so I had to make due with what I had, witch was a drill and a grinder.
I started out with some peices from a old junk CJ grille.

I then cut out only what I needed, witch was not very mutch.

I then held them in place with vice grips and used some self drilling screws and screwed them in place.

The CJ buckets then bolted right on.


I know it would have been easyer to weld them in, but like I said, I didnt have one, or know anyone with one, so I just used what I had.
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awesome...

Cool ideas....I'd try the CJ grille idea but I don't really have access to one right now, I might try those furniture repair strips. Thanks for the help guys. My cousin has a welder, but he says he's not too comfortable welding any thin metal like that, and the buckets that I'm using are galvanized so that doesn't make things any easier. Maybe I'll finally get rid of the zip ties.....
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This is an '85 GW clip with razor converson.

It's been a long time but IIRC it was grind a small spot and weld in one tab on each side.
Hardest part was making sure the buckets were centered on the grill for the trim rings to sit correctly.

For my Rhino fit up on the J2K it is here.
http://members.cox.net/fsjntechstuff/rhinothing.JPG
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