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Old 03-06-2021, 06:17 PM
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77 Firecracker Red Wagoneer

Lets see if I can get this picture thing working. I wanted an older waggy to use as a family hauler while towing the camper or car trailer. I couldn't find one locally in KC, so I ended up having this one shipped from Minnesota. I was expecting some rust but it was cheap and everything works on it. Got it delivered on my birthday in Dec. Drove it around the block and immediately tore it apart. It needed some work.


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Old 03-06-2021, 06:29 PM
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Man, I've tried everything. I can't get the pics to attach to the post. Only the link shows. Followed all the directions in the sticky.
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Old 03-06-2021, 06:35 PM
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But, I found out that the exterior of the Wagoneer had sunk about 3 inches below the floor because all the sub structure was rusted away. I jacked up the body and rebuilt the entire floor structure out of box tubing and replaced all the floor pans. Built my own inner rocker panels out of 16 gauge and replaced the outside rockers. I've been through most of the engine, upgrading to HEI, fixed rust in the front and rear of the frame, and touched about everything on the beast. I have a new gas tank and a few other odds and ends ready to go. It's almost ready to get out of the garage now.
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Old 03-06-2021, 09:25 PM
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77 Firecracker Red Wagoneer

Really looking forward to some pics. Rang-a Stang walked me thru getting pics loaded. I will look to see if I can find it.
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Old 03-06-2021, 09:28 PM
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77 Firecracker Red Wagoneer

Hey I located it.

Yeah, it's a PITA. Here are a couple how-Tos:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=185569
I posted a second option in this one (so there are 2 different ways):
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=170876

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Old 03-07-2021, 10:27 AM
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Holy crap, figured it out!

Here it is with some fresh tires and painted wheels.
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Old 03-07-2021, 10:34 AM
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Not for the faint of heart. How about some rust pics?





Here things got interesting. Never seen a body sag so much with the doors still functioning.



Even the shocks were rusted out.

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Old 03-07-2021, 10:39 AM
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Here's some pics of the rebuild. I had an old phone at the time, so the pics are not the greatest.



Here's the floor structure that I made from 1 1/2 box tubing. All ends closed and nuts welded inside for the body mounts. The supports go to the inner rockers and have legs going down.

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Old 03-07-2021, 11:37 AM
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Here's the new floor pans going in.

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Old 03-07-2021, 11:46 AM
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As I said, the body had sunk about 3 inches so it started to rip the metal going under the rear seat. I jacked up the body, cut out the bad stuff and welded in new metal to return the body to where it needed to be.



And rebuilt the bottom sides of the seat riser and rear floor section.



Fresh new metal.



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Old 03-07-2021, 11:51 AM
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Rear frame rust repair.



I'm not really impressed with the thickness of these frames and I plan to tow, so I made this beefy support bracket out of an old receiver hitch.



Here it is bolted inside the frame. Might be overkill but now I know that it'll support towing.

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Old 03-07-2021, 02:25 PM
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Wow man , that was some serious rust repair!
Still enough metal repair and welding ahead ,but looking very good already!
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Old 03-07-2021, 05:08 PM
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Yeah Heep, it was pretty toast. Everything is saveable if you're stubborn like me, but I don't think I'll be buying anything from the great white north anytime soon. Working on the drivers side rear frame repair right now. It would make most queasy.
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Old 03-07-2021, 06:17 PM
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This is fascinating! Seems that wag is lucky to arrive at your house. Next time time buy a West coast wag!
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Old 03-07-2021, 06:41 PM
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Holy ...... That looks like it literally came out of the Great Lakes!!
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Old 03-07-2021, 08:22 PM
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77 Firecracker Red Wagoneer

Wow those rust pics were hard to look at. Great job in removing the cancer.
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:16 PM
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Sub'd for the fun you had on this one!
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Old 03-07-2021, 10:51 PM
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Avert your eyes if you get queasy easily....

There wasn't much left of the rear drivers side frame. After removing the rotten crap, this is what I had left. I wrapped it up but forgot to take an after picture. It was bad enough that the rear shackle mount was ripping from the frame and tilted at the top. I jacked up the frame and let the axle move back to where it belonged before welding in the patches. You can see that I only had to cut away the lower section of the frame so I made the patch a big 90 degree piece of metal. Effectively doubling up the frame side. Welded along the bottom exterior edge and top of the inside. Plus added another big support bracket like the passenger side. Everything got a coat of rust convertor between the panels, so it should last awhile.

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Old 03-07-2021, 10:59 PM
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Thanks everybody for the comments. I like saving things and the original worn paint screamed out to me. This probably should have been a parts vehicle but I wasn't going to let that happen.

Remarkably, everything works on the thing. All the electronics, heater, rear window, etc. Everything is just worn and needing some attention. For instance, when I went to change the fuel pump, I noticed that the timing chain was hitting the cover. It was super loose and trying to chew it's way out of the cover so I changed that and went ahead and switched to HEI. It still had the original ignition system that I've read can be cantankerous. When I bought it, it had a pretty substantial trans leak which turned out to be a torn o-ring on the modulator and the shift shaft seal. I still need to check the quadratrac chain and I'm sure it needs replaced.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:32 AM
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NICE WORK

you aint afraid of some repairs. that is for sure.

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