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Old 09-02-2014, 10:08 AM
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Manual tailgate window crank

So, I came home to find that my tailgate window crank was missing along with the key cylinder, etc... Now, all I have remaining is a hole with a male spline inside it.

1) Can these cranks be removed from the outside (stolen)?
2) Anybody know where I can find a replacement? They appear to be in short supply.

This is for a 1979 Cherokee Chief.
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:20 AM
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BJ's used to sell them from Crown but I think they quit. They were really poor quality. Splines were made of old cheese. If your window works absolutely well the Crown brand was ok but if you have to muscle the window up they'ed strip out.
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Old 09-04-2014, 01:17 AM
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Heres a kit they offer to go from electric to Manual. Maybe some day I can afford to do this to my Wag. My window works a bit slow due to my crummy wiring system

http://www.teamgrandwagoneer.com/man...-gw-1974-1991/
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Old 09-04-2014, 07:48 AM
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Thanks for the link! Ouch on the price.
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Old 09-04-2014, 08:28 AM
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Be aware

That is the Crowne crank & the Crowne mechanism both are known for their Bad quality. Buyer beware. If they were good they would be closer to 300.00 bucks. Find an electric system out of a junker. Install it with a wiring harness & be done with it. the cost would be about 200.00.
There was a guy down in weather ford on Craigslist that had a mechanism for sale.

Good luck on what ever you do.
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:45 PM
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I wish I'd had the foresite to buy up all the OEM ones Oly4x4 was selling back in 2000. I got one for my '83 so I could sell the rig and that was my last rear window I had to worry about on my own. I "redneckgineered" a few since then (modded window crank handle with an extension)
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:52 AM
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if youre looking for a replacement crank and key cylinder, i have a new set i picked up from BJs maybe 4-5years ago and never got around tp installing them. they may be the previously mentioned crowns (handle no longer has a box) but theyre unused and look pretty. Looks like i paid just over $50 shipped. if youre interested ill mail them to you to break even.
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Old 09-06-2014, 08:27 PM
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I think it is half user error/half quality issues, they were never very tough from the factory, with people thinking they can just slap in a manual regulator without checking and repairing the alignment of the tailgate, the weather stripping .... to ensure the glass opens and closes smoothly, the new crank gets the blame for striped splines (the weak link).


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That is the Crowne crank & the Crowne mechanism both are known for their Bad quality. Buyer beware. If they were good they would be closer to 300.00 bucks. Find an electric system out of a junker. Install it with a wiring harness & be done with it. the coswt would be about 200.00.
There was a guy down in weather ford on Craigslist that had a mechanism for sale.

Good luck on what ever you do.
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Old 09-06-2014, 08:48 PM
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Could be

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I think it is half user error/half quality issues, they were never very tough from the factory, with people thinking they can just slap in a manual regulator without checking and repairing the alignment of the tailgate, the weather stripping .... to ensure the glass opens and closes smoothly, the new crank gets the blame for striped splines (the weak link).

I've owned both & didn't see this to be the case with my experience.. everything in my tailgate was neew & it doesn't bind. I've seen several OEM's that I had last 20 years. I couldn't get that out of the Crowne unit. One was in the Cherokee I have now when I bought it after fooling with it for 2 years 3 handles then the gears started jumping which I never saw a OEM unit do. I'm sure frequency of usage mechanical issues individual treatment are all mitigating factors. My experience showed me the Crowne was inferior. The same Cherokee with the same track has been trouble free free 5 years since I changed to OEM electric. I trashed it & put in an electric one & started building harnesses. I'll never go back to manual, However I'm sue there are ones out there that's life's were shortened by bad installs & set ups.
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NP208
Edlebrock performer intake
Holley 4180
Msd total multi spark.
4" rusty's springs
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