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Old 04-06-2018, 06:12 AM
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I have one of those filler necks, NOS I'm pretty sure. I've had it for quite a few years.
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Old 04-06-2018, 01:04 PM
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I search for NOS parts nearly every night to help me wind down.
Hopefully the rubber is in good shape.
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Old 04-06-2018, 10:50 PM
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:19 PM
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I don't need one. I was saying I hope it is in good shape for you.
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:13 PM
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:42 AM
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The problem is the super thin edge where lab metal meets the level metal around it. It does not want to leave a clean smooth transition. It seems to fracture away in a very minute way. So it might resemble a crack. The powder coater said he was going to coat on a primer. Hopefully it will sand smooth before the final coat. I am trying to minimize the time which equals more costs.

I am collecting items for rechroming also. The grill emblem mount, four wheel drive emblem, Tailgate key lock cover maybe and I am going to examine the door handles today. So two stops tomorrow.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:41 PM
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Hey there again! It's been a while since I've looked through the forums, but I was glad to see more great work from you. Sadie is probably the nicest GW that has ever existed. Many of my factory pieces' build quality pales in comparison to your work! Always inspirational. It looks like you are really getting close! I hope you are having more sun than snow finally.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:07 PM
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Hey Finn,
Good to hear from you. I just saw part of my front yard for the first time today . Finally it is melting and everything is soaked and draining. We still have a couple feet in the trees behind the home. This years snow totaled 5.5 feet. I see you have an update on your thread. I am going to go check it out.

Today I dropped off quite a few things at a chrome plater. 4 door handles, two tailgate key switch's with the base, and swing away kaiser jeep emblem cover, two front grill big emblem bases, 2 tailgate 4 wheel drive pitted emblems. It got cheaper the more I included. So I am doing enough for my X model waggie.

Then both grills and 4 headlight rings went to the powder coater. I took my CJ-5 beadlock wheels in also. They were getting rusty and needed a face lift.
I spent all day sunday looking for a few missing items. I found all but one item.
I am getting ready to load the doors up.
I had an idea. I am going to apply "slip Plate" to the bottoms of the window slots where the lift arm stud travels. I will also paint it on the lift arm stud.
It goes on as a wet paint, dries and gets polished with use. I hope it is a successful idea and that it reduces the friction significantly on the lift mechanism. Same with the tailgate. I ordered a can and it is on the way.

Apparently slip plate is a supreme exhaust manifold paint. It leaves a cast look that apparently holds up just super.

A friend of mine painted each leaf of his leaf springs. It changed the ride and made it WAY softer. It's worth trying on the window slides.

I need to hit it hard tomorrow. I was on the road all day today.
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:14 AM
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Slip Plate is the same as Dry Lube, no? I should be using this stuff on my rig too.
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:06 AM
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Sounds like graphite "paint"?

Can't remember if I used it on my springs when I did them about 20 years ago. If I did it was in addition to the plastic liner between the leaves.
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:18 PM
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To answer you both. It is graphite impregnated paint. Dry lube would be like the tube of powder correct? This stuff sprays or brushes on properly prepared metal and dries like a paint film. It won't attract dirt and gets more slick with use. My only concern is the very small contact pattern on the shank of the lift arm stud and the slotted path of the bottom of the window. Will it shear through the film I wonder? Lots of pressure in a small area there. I am still going to give it a try and later if a door panel needs to get removed for a dab of grease, well not a big deal. I plan on putting it on the leaf springs on the 71 J4000 I want to get running this summer. It survives very well in that use.

The wife is in Alaska for a funeral. I am staying up late and leaving dirty dishes in the sink.
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:30 PM
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The wife is in Alaska for a funeral. I am staying up late and leaving dirty dishes in the sink.

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Old 04-11-2018, 11:41 PM
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Yeah I know... I have only managed to fill one side of the sink so far. I pick her up tomorrow so I guess that will have to do.

So an interesting day. I had the samples finally show up for the tailgate panels from a USA company today. It is the same stuff I have been ordering from Europe but it is better looking. Unfortunately I just ordered another batch from across the pond. So I will have to ebay them or something. I sent out messages to all you guys about it. They roll more material at the start of May. They do it once a month and I just missed it. I placed an order for some. It is not much cheaper but it sure looks better. The UK stuff has a subtle grain to it. The USA stuff has a more crisp shine. It is getting better all the time.

The UK stuff is in the foreground.



They sent a cool assortment of pattern samples. This is cool.



So I rebuilt the entire wire harness in the tailgate. I had some damaged terminals. I replaced the shell and crimped and soldered new terminals on. I used a dremel with a mini wire wheel on every single terminal and got them to shine. I want everything to work and work well.
This is the door safety switch. Jumpered with a piece of 1/8 copper tube.
This circuit is a ground for the motor. It opens the circuit when the gate is opened not allowing the window to move.





And the motor I took apart and cleaned up. I peeled off all the rubber back when I took it apart. Well I painted liquid electrical tape on it to reseal it up for wet use. Kind of blurry.



I put a NOS gate switch in also. A good ebay find there.



I completely disassembled the worm gear drive. It will get new grease after a good cleaning.



That little ball bearing got away from me. I heard it drop in the solvent tank. I did not see it. I found it in the bottom of my strainer. That was frustrating not knowing exactly what I was looking for. That bearing goes between the worm gear shaft and the metal slug there for reduced friction.




I stripped apart the transmission shifter linkage and got it all spotless. But before I took it apart I put a punch mark in it and took a measurement to help me land the shift part in the exact same spot.



I straightened the trans cooling lines and cleaned them right up. I had to make SS spacers for the oil pan bolts that the lines attach to. I did not photograph this but probably should have. They look nice and straight now. They were bent to heck.

I worked all day then stacked a half cord of firewood. It feels like slow going. But every bit helps. It is time to get both black and green paint on some stuff. The parts are piling up waiting. I want to put the carpet in. That will be cool. Not yet ....
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Old 04-12-2018, 06:26 AM
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Hurry up AL. Rumor has it that it's going to start snowing soon.
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:06 AM
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Hurry up AL. Rumor has it that it's going to start snowing soon.

I knew you were a trouble maker when I met you.

I can see the front yard now. It was supposed to snow three inches here last night. It didn't. What a late thaw.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:39 PM
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Well I have been having my own private tailgate party here. Everything except the glass is in the gate. Because I can't leave stuff alone. this is the lift arm stud and it has a worn spot in the full up position. I put a bit of metal back and got it round again.



A few minutes later. I used a Tig welder followed by a blast of cooling air. I did not want to take the spring tension out of the wave washer behind the backing washer. Had to do this to both of the arms.



And after getting the whole assembly painted I put the experimental slip plate on the stud for reduced friction. It comes off easy until it dries then it is stuck on tight. With use it will polish itself against another part coated with it also. I did the slots too.



This is what the can looks like.



Rebuilding the window. I had to dig through all the back windows I had to find one that was not ruined by scratches. On the bottom, The little metal ear was broken off that holds the wrap around SS trim on the edge of the glass. Again using the Tig welder I found a piece of metal that was the right thickness and made a new one. The factory had spot welded the part on crooked. I had to offset it to be in line with the window.



Cleaning up and painting the lower part with silver rust bullet paint. This will preserve it for the rest of the life of the rig.



Then the slip plate on the slots. I have to let this dry overnight. Or it would be in by now.



On rebuilding the worm gear motor lift assembly. The little ball bearing is not shown in the factory parts manual. Not sure why. When putting it all back together with new grease, the metal puck that goes in the bore first will not seat easily against the bottom. You have to coax it in with a wire or a small screw driver all the way down. It jacks sideways and won't let the motor bolt up. Don't put a lot of grease in the bore for this. Then goes the bearing, then the worm shaft. Put the brass gear in a bed of grease then put the dust cover back on. Lots of grease is OK here. Worm gears are self braking. That is why you can't budge the glass when the motor is not working. Worn bushings or misalignment of the bushing plate will make the motor strain big time. Here are the parts again so you know what I am referring to. Only a tiny bit of grease on these when they go in the bore.




If you have a lift mechanism with trashed bushings, it can be rebuilt by making new ones. The drive gear should not rock much at all in them.
Here are the dimensions for anyone who wants to tighten up their lift assembly. Any machinist can make these in no time. Mine were fine so no lathe time for me. For correct worm gear shaft end play adjustment, install the motor and coupling. Then adjust the threaded shaft and jam nut till you can just feel the motor coupling shift back and forth on both shafts. Not much, just barely perceivable is good. Do this with the motor and gearbox OFF the lift assembly. The arm tension won't let you feel that minor movement of the coupling I am referring to. Once you just start to feel the coupling be able to be moved, tighten down the jam nut and you are done. This one I cleaned up was out of adjustment. You don't want the worm shaft walking back and forth. If the motor does not screw down correctly the worm shaft needs adjustment away from the motor end. Don't pack grease down in the end of the worm shaft bore where the metal puck and bearing go. It won't compress and will give you a false adjustment. Just a dab to hold it all in. Anyway, here are bushing dimensions.



The lift arm spring loaded assembly is like a giant mouse trap. It is difficult to load the arms down and bolt up the worm gear and motor assembly. You absolutely must sight down on the drive gear and make sure it is perfectly aligned. That bushing plate is slotted and the tension on the arms will cause the gear to get bolted up very crooked. This will trash the bushings and wear the teeth super fast. I guarantee this will be way crooked unless you specifically check it. So look down here and make sure it is in good alignment.
I will put grease on the teeth before the window goes in. I did not want it getting on everything.



I got all of it installed and secured the wire harness. Window guides are in and all that is left is the glass. It is nice and clean. For now....



The grounds got cleaned to bare metal, coated with dielectric grease, secured and coated with liquid electrical tape goo. Hopefully no corrosion for a good long time. Tomorrow I put the glass in with help from my wife. Then on to the four doors.



More as soon as I can shine it up.
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Ok now I'm really nervous about rebuilding my tailgate
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Ok now I'm really nervous about rebuilding my tailgate

You have a different animal with a later model. Now you can post up a how to.
Just put on your welding helmet, turn down the lights and close one eye. You will be fine.
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Old 04-15-2018, 12:25 PM
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Check this out. Two 73's in CL in the area. Both super nice and priced up there.
I might have to put this color scheme on my 71 I was hoping to get going.
What a great looking truck.

https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/d...555581019.html
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1983 FJ60 wagon
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You have a different animal with a later model. Now you can post up a how to.
Just put on your welding helmet, turn down the lights and close one eye. You will be fine.
I may have just as much luck with the hood on and the lights low. That truck is nice, but it's been used a bit hard for that price, maybe you can talk them down a couple grand
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