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Old 10-25-2021, 02:44 PM
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1969 OVER DRIVE ????

I was looking at some older pics of a 1969 Wagoneer that was found in a barn in California. As I blew up the photo to look at some interior details, I see a pull handle on the dash that says Overdrive !!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, has anyone heard of this ? I don't think it was factory so it had to be dealer installed. What could they possibly have put in ? I am very intrigued. Look just below the turn signal.





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Old 10-25-2021, 03:11 PM
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I'm not old enough to speak from personal experience , but I know that back in the day there were option to bolt on a external overdrive to the transmission.

Warn and mile marker were two of them that did make them.
There were a lot of other brand names that are long gone that made very cool on and off road parts!

Have a look in some 1970 fourwheeler magazines and start drooling over al the ads about cool parts and other interesting articles.

One of the cool options from back in the days I would like to have on my 73' J4000 would be a sidewinder winch from Hickey.
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:28 PM
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Would venture it would be a Warn.
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Old 10-26-2021, 10:46 AM
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Would venture it would be a Warn.
The Warn/Saturn overdrive is a planetary overdrive transmission that only works with a Dana 18 transfer case. Not applicable to our FSJs. There were also Rancho overdrives which adapted the Borg-Warner electric overdrive used on many automobiles to the Dana 20. Look here - https://classicbroncos.com/ebbarn/overdrive.html

These were available for Jeeps as well as Broncos. Note they fit on the rear output of the Dana 20, and thus only work in 2-wheel rear-wheel drive.
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Old 10-26-2021, 07:44 PM
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A 3-on-the-tree I see. Something a little funky going on with that 4wd lever..... that wasn't how they were stock, were they?
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Old 10-27-2021, 05:33 AM
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Yes, the shifter is like that on the Kaiser Era Jeep Wagoneers.
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Looked at the link Tim provided. That's the unit that was in a Wag I scrapped out. Held on to it for years to maybe use, then couldn't give it away. No internet back then. At least not like now.

I thought it was a factory option since I had a manual, that I thought was factory, that covered it. Loaned that book out many years ago and never got it back yet so I can't be sure.

Seems to me you had to lift off the gas to let these things shift, contrary to what that article stated. Once engaged there was no compression braking.
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Old 10-28-2021, 11:02 AM
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I thought it was a factory option since I had a manual, that I thought was factory, that covered it. ...
Both the T-85 and T-89 3-speeds were used by Jeep in these models, and in passenger cars both could come with the B-W overdrive. Possible the 2WD Wagoneer could have one from the factory, which would explain its being in whatever book you had.
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