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Old 07-23-2022, 06:40 AM
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How much did the rear suspension sag?

I had once 2800 kg stone tiles in the bed of my 73' and it scraped the tow hitch bracket when going over a curb in the road!

It's good to see the jeeps used where they are built for!
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Old 07-24-2022, 12:14 AM
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Nice work, and exactly what that truck was made to do!

I am sure your son is going to love his new place




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How much did the rear suspension sag?

I had once 2800 kg stone tiles in the bed of my 73' and it scraped the tow hitch bracket when going over a curb in the road!

It's good to see the jeeps used where they are built for!




It's a truck and as far as I'm concerned it will always be a truck. I bought it to do truck stuff not to be a 2 seat sports car that gets really bad mileage like so many old trucks these days that just sit in garages most of the time and only come out to be trailered to a show, wiped down, looked at for a few hours then loaded back on a trailer put back in the garage and wiped down again to sit for another month or two.



I think technically the J4500 was severely under rated by the factory. According to the scale at my local dump the truck weighs 4500 lbs empty with me driving and a full tank of gas. By my calculations with that load of wood I was right around 5,770 lbs, so I was just a skosh over the 5,000 lbs GVW but it does have overload springs ( I think all J4000s do) so I'm not that concerned about overloading, except for the exhaust.



I think I've mentioned it before but just before I bought the truck it got a brand new exhaust system. It's a very well done system except for one thing, there is no loop over the axle, just a little joggle up.


Here is a picture



There is less than 2 finger widths between the exhaust and the block for the brakes that sits on top of the axle.



Jf you look closely



you can see where the bolt that holds the block to the diff is worn and there is a dent in the exhaust caused by loading the truck.


Yes, I know that is a very bad thing and have been meaning to have it taken care of but it's one of those things that just keeps getting neglected. Some day I will fix it


I forgot to mention something in that last post.


The other day when I pulled up to Lowe's a young girl walked up to me and asked if she could take some pictures of my truck. This actually happens pretty regularly and I always say "take all you want".


Mrs Cranky was in the Escape a few minutes behind me so wasn't there yet. I ran inside to take care of things and let them know I was back to pick up the 2x4s and when Mrs Cranky pulled up she found a young girl live streaming and posing all around the truck and had to text me to see if I knew about it I know that somewhere there has to be pictures of my truck all over the internet.


On a different note this morning I took Mrs Cranky to the Good Guys Pacific Northwest Nationals in Puyallup. I haven't been to a car show in a very long time but I wanted to show her that cars she always perceived as "HUGE!!!" are actually no bigger than current cars and maybe we could find something she liked besides that Ponton that might be a "catalogue car", which means there is a catalogue of parts available to upgrade it rather than something like the Ponton which can be difficult to upgrade.


She kept kind of gravitating to '55 & '56 chevs, but hated the chrome on the dash, which I figure is easy enough to take care of but she hated how common they are. There was an enormous amount of tri 5 chevys there.


She absolutely loved a 1928 Buick Opera coupe which shocked me but I figure I could work with since it is frame on rather than unibody but where do you find a 1928 Buick Opera coupe? so that is unlikely to happen.


She kind of likes early to mid 50s Ford Crestlines and was hoping to see some in person to see how big they seem in real life but we didn't see any that I could point out. So that was a bust but she now feels she has a greater grasp of actual size of old cars and deep down she still loves the Ponton more and since there wasn't a single one at the show feels it has that uniqueness that makes it even more special.



Now I just need to find one that doesn't need a ton of work for a reasonable price.


One other thing that seemed to be missing was an sign of a Jeep Truck There were a few pre J-series there and some jeepsters but we didn't see a single J-series. Now that could be they were all somewhere we didn't go because we were a bit limited on time and both extremely sore from working very hard on getting everything ready for the shed to be built so we didn't see everything but there certainly seemed to be a lack of them.
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Old 08-18-2022, 06:51 PM
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Just a small update since I don't have much to say when the truck is working well.


Yesterday it was over 90f when I left work, probably close to 95 and I wound up in a little bit of traffic at a long light. The temp on the truck got up to 201 while I waited on the light, which is higher than I've seen it since finishing the shroud. Normally it will get up to 197 then drop down to 195 and I start to get a bit concerned above 200. It didn't seem to want to get higher than that. I don't know what would have happened if the light hadn't changed but it did and I went on my way. I don't think this is really anything to worry about but there is still a gap at the bottom of the shroud and I'm considering doing something to fill that gap and see if that makes a difference but today is likely our last day above 90 this year so I probably won't do anything.
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Old 08-19-2022, 11:17 AM
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Definitely nothing to worry about. Mine lived at 195-210 with no problems. I get nervous at 225, scared at 240, and shut it down at 250.
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Old 08-19-2022, 02:38 PM
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Just a small update since I don't have much to say when the truck is working well.

I don't think this is really anything to worry about but there is still a gap at the bottom of the shroud and I'm considering doing something to fill that gap and see if that makes a difference but today is likely our last day above 90 this year so I probably won't do anything.


Your engine temp is fine, the fan clutch is working, when the fan clutch starts to fail your temp will crawl up there.

As for the gap, I tried to fill the gap, and drove for a few years... then at some point, I removed the DIY lower shroud... and the temp went down to the next markings... so keep it OE and it will be fine


this is what we have






and I did this for some years





and this was the intermediate stage





I removed it in 2021, and have no regrets
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Old 08-19-2022, 08:55 PM
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I know 201 is nothing to worry about but I baby the truck. I spent a lot on rebuilding the engine and if it goes bad again its getting LS swapped and I'm not ready to go that route just yet.
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:03 AM
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Looking at the picture of your load - Figure about a pound per foot for the 2x4s; maybe 1200 lbs with the PT lumber. Not terrible. Agree that's what it's for. Put it to work.

Watch out for concrete bags, block, brick, aggregate, sand etc. Easy to go way beyond with that type of material. I think the most immediate risk is to the rear wheel bearings, and those probably won't fail right away, but in the future. Listen for noises ... whirr, popping, etc.
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Old 08-29-2022, 07:18 PM
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And then you find another donor truck to make a trailer to match
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Old 08-30-2022, 08:58 AM
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And then you find another donor truck to make a trailer to match

I have the bed from my 73' j4000 as kind of a leftover and also had the idea to make a trailer from it.
It's rusty on the rear around the tail lights and around the fender flares , but good enough to make a trailer from.

The down side over here in Holland is we need to have papers for registering our trailers that are above 750 kilogram.
But a home made trailer would never be accepted without a thorough check ad the dmv.
But the idea is still a good one!
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73' Jeep J4000 (named Heep or Desert Dragon) amc 360 V8 converted to LPG with T15/D20 (was my daily work truck for thirteen years and is getting major overhaul at the moment!)
80' Jeep cj5 350 V8 Chevy/sm420/D300 project
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Old 08-30-2022, 12:09 PM
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Looking at the picture of your load - Figure about a pound per foot for the 2x4s; maybe 1200 lbs with the PT lumber. Not terrible. Agree that's what it's for. Put it to work.

Watch out for concrete bags, block, brick, aggregate, sand etc. Easy to go way beyond with that type of material. I think the most immediate risk is to the rear wheel bearings, and those probably won't fail right away, but in the future. Listen for noises ... whirr, popping, etc.




I weighed some of the 2x4s and came up with around 1270# for the load, I prefer to draw the line at no more than 1,000#


The load of concrete blocks before the wood was somewhere similar in weight.
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Old 08-30-2022, 04:10 PM
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Cranky , those weights are in lbs right!?

When I got my 73' j4000 on Dutch plates it was aloud to haul 1300 kilograms with a total weight of 3450 kilograms.

I had a couple times that much on the back and it performed very good!
It did ride smoother with some load instead of a empty bed.

The max it once hauled was around 2800 kilograms of bricks ,but that made the tow hitch scraping the pavement when going over a bump in the road.

I hope to have some load options left after the truck is back in one piece with the Cummins driveline in and utility bed on.
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99' Dodge ram 2500 4x4 crew cab 5.9 Cummins ,backup work truck for now
73' Jeep J4000 (named Heep or Desert Dragon) amc 360 V8 converted to LPG with T15/D20 (was my daily work truck for thirteen years and is getting major overhaul at the moment!)
80' Jeep cj5 350 V8 Chevy/sm420/D300 project
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Old 08-30-2022, 07:11 PM
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Cranky , those weights are in lbs right!?

When I got my 73' j4000 on Dutch plates it was aloud to haul 1300 kilograms with a total weight of 3450 kilograms.

I had a couple times that much on the back and it performed very good!
It did ride smoother with some load instead of a empty bed.

The max it once hauled was around 2800 kilograms of bricks ,but that made the tow hitch scraping the pavement when going over a bump in the road.

I hope to have some load options left after the truck is back in one piece with the Cummins driveline in and utility bed on.


Yes, that's in lbs and I know I baby it and I have no doubt the axles can handle way more load than the truck is rated at. I do at times think about when my brother and I broke an axle on the Chevy truck we used to haul firewood when I was a teenager and don't want to have to go looking for another DANA 44 to fit it, or axles or anything else for that matter and I seldom actually need to haul too heavy of a load.


I will say the truck does like at least a bit of a load and unless I'm hauling something heavy I keep two or three 50 lbs bags of ballast at the very back of the bed, otherwise I have traction problems even on slightly damp roads.
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Old 08-30-2022, 07:14 PM
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And then you find another donor truck to make a trailer to match


Back when I was looking for a replacement tailgate I found an old trailer made out of a Kaiser era truck but Mrs Cranky persuaded me not to buy it because we don't have the room for it.
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Old 09-05-2022, 07:23 PM
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I haven't been posting much lately because a lot has been going on in my life and none of it involves the truck. Apple production this year is dismal but I don't have time to deal with them anyway and the truck is running real nicely.


That said, this week a couple minor things happened.


I got a flat tire but it was easily fixed but the tires are starting to look a bit shoddy and I'm going to have to start thinking about replacing them next summer or so.


The other thing is my odometer finally rolled over to 20,000 miles. If what I was told when I bought the truck is correct that means it now has 120,000 original miles on it. This milestone happened at 5:30 in the morning and I had to pull over and take a couple of pictures I rather like how they turned out so I figured I'd share them






I just love the green glow of old dash lights
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i love the green glo too,........hello cranky
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Old 09-10-2022, 08:45 PM
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i love the green glo too,........hello cranky




Hi Dave


There is just something comforting about those green dash lights.
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I like the lettering or number style, font......
on those year models
the simple design is always good.
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Those pictures are great Cranky!! Love them!
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