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Old 10-04-2008, 09:18 PM
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Pulling motors is a PITA!!!

I dove into R&R'ing my motor this weekend. I had some work to finish up from last week, so I got started on the Jeep later in the afternoon. Not a big deal, but I missed The Car Guys on NPR.

I started by turning the petcock on the radiator to start it draining. Then I made my way over the motor, pulling the vac hoses, TBI unit, fuel lines and distributor. I was only going to pull the P/S pump and lay it aside. But it ended up being easier to pull the whole mounting bracket assembly off.

By this time, the radiator was drained so it came out after disconnecting the trans cooler lines and spraying red fluid around.

Then off came the A/C compressor mount and compressor. Who the heck decided to have THAT many bolts holding the thing on anyway?

Remembering how close the exhaust comes to the heater box, I unbolted the passenger side manifold. I would have unbolted the Y-pipe, but one of the nuts decided to round itself off, so I'll have to grind it off once the motor is out. But my heater box will be intact.

Two of the top rear engine/transmission bolts turned easily, but the passenger side top bolt wouldn't budge, so I decided to pull the transmission tunnel cover to put the impact onto it.

But of course the carpet won't come out without the seats being removed. It's hard to fold over itself. Did I mention the battery is already pulled, so I can't move the seats? (I know, easy to re-install and I just might!)

Fortunately, that's when dinner arrived home with my darling wife who also helped me remove the hood earlier.

So that's where I left it. Carpet will come out Sunday and then I'll get to chip at the seam sealant all over the transmission tunnel cover.

And I haven't even started at the bottom end with the transmission lines, the starter and the lower engine mounts. The good thing is that since they're covered in oil, hopefully they'll be easy to loosen.

I don't remember pulling motors being such a PITA. Maybe because it's been several years since I last did it. They say that the mind is the first thing to go.
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:42 PM
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Don't forget that the engine hoist is used to discover what you've forgotten to disconnect earlier...

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Old 10-04-2008, 10:56 PM
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Don't forget that the engine hoist is used to discover what you've forgotten to disconnect earlier...

Isn't THAT the truth!!!
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:02 AM
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And I haven't even started at the bottom end with the transmission lines, the starter and the lower engine mounts. The good thing is that since they're covered in oil, hopefully they'll be easy to loosen.


do not get your hopes up. Back when i melted down the j10, i broke one of the starter bolt trying to get it to loosen. Nothing a drill, then a bolt and washer, and a nut could not fix
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:24 AM
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So, your performing MAJOR organ transplant surgery on you FSJ and you expected it to be like clipping toenails?????? Wait untill you try and put it back in. You will swear it came from a different vehicle!
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:30 AM
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Beer+food=help. Just...leave the cam off this time?

Good luck man. I've found it scads easier to do that crap with the entire front clip removed as I'm sure you know.
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:44 AM
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I feel your pain brother, I am doing the same thing here. Oh, did I mention that it is raining off and on here all weekend? My son is helping me, I keep telling him it builds caracter. I don't think he believes me.
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Old 10-05-2008, 04:44 AM
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Until not long ago every vehicle I've owned needed the engine r/r for one reason or another some of them were projects or just needed repairs to my dd any ways If you think FSJ's are tough me& my sons just finished up a '93 grand cherokee! what a royal,pia! My oldest son works at a dealership and tells me some newer suv's&trucks they actualy lift the body off the frame to r/r the engine!!!
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:29 AM
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The pay off is later...
When it is bolted up...
Running and no leaks...
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:02 AM
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60s Mustangs had a ground strap from the motor to the fire wall I was alway forgetting it till I had the engine started out. Oh to make matters more fun I didn't have a chain hoist I used a rope hoist talk about a struggle!!
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:35 AM
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dont forget the new seal for the front of the trans

That's precisely why I'm pulling the ^%#&@ motor. And I figured I'll replace all the other seals and crap on the motor while it's out.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:25 AM
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don't forget the rear main
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:30 AM
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Sounds like you are off to a great start.

I never had trouble pulling my carpet out from under the pedals and dash and folding it back onto the seats. Need a big rock or a tool box to set on it to keep it there.

Don't forget to mark your flexplate to converter.

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Old 10-05-2008, 09:34 AM
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:40 AM
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Huh? Is that AMC specific or should I have done that with the Buick 350?
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:55 AM
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Removing the engine is one of the reasons I like body lifts on a truck.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:57 AM
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:32 AM
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Ethan must not pull very many motors. I;ve gotten to to where I can pull you by myself in less than an hour. Granted that does involve a lot of cut belts, hoses and wires!
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Old 10-05-2008, 01:50 PM
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Ethan must not pull very many motors. I;ve gotten to to where I can pull you by myself in less than an hour. Granted that does involve a lot of cut belts, hoses and wires!

ha ha!!! Remind me to not let you near my truck!

Rear main was done a few years ago, but I think I'll replace it again "just because". Valve cover gaskets are getting replaced, as is the oil pan and possible a new water pump may find its way in there.

The motor is COVERED in crud. Mud, oil, transmission fluid, PS fluid and who knows what else. I'm thinking it's going to get a nice trip to the car wash to meet the pressure washer. (Yes, I'll reinstall the exhaust manifolds and cap off the intake!)

The lifting of the body off the frame DID cross my mind at several points...
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:55 PM
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I've got like 15' of 3/8's extensions. I sit behind the t-case and loosen them.
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