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Old 03-19-2019, 11:53 AM
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I replaced all of my gauge cluster components with new parts sourced from Amazon. I did not do the ammeter gauge bypass. I just wanted everything to work properly, including the backlighting, high beam, turn signal indicators, Edrive, etc.

I agree with this, I want it all to work and look as stock as I can.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
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PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:10 PM
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One more thing i worked on last weekend was the fog lights, they do not currently work.
Does anyone know if these are a option from the factory sourced by AMC?
The bulb unit in the second pic is made in Japan, and the switch which is hard to see in the last pic looks like any aftermarket aux switch. So i bet it was was just added by the PO at some point.


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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:14 PM
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Just looked up the part number looks like they are definitely aftermarket, the bulb unit is made by a handful of companies.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 03-25-2019, 02:41 PM
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Had a couple hours of time to wrench on the Wagon this weekend.

Went through all my gauges:
Fuel gauge still works, this does have the new fuel sending unit from when i did the tank. I just never installed the ground wire.
Oil Pressure gauge will work as soon as i get a new sending unit but all the connections tested how they should with a DMM.
Water Temp gauge works as well after i rewired it as the factory wiring had been removed at some point.
Finally the PO had installed a aftermarket AMP gauge and it works already, and he used the factory wiring. So all i need is to hook it up to my OEM gauge. EXCEPT it is no longer in the cluster, the PO removed it at some point and just put black tape over it!

Thus begins the hunt for a new AMP gauge/cluster with it still in it. I have a couple leads already but any news of some one with a spare gauge cluster for a 1977 Wagon or FSJ of similar year would be helpful.
I also know some of you have recommended switching to a Voltage gauge and i dont disagree but for now i am going to go with an all stock gauge cluster since so far it all works just fine. I may upgrade in the future.

Another part of the dash that i worked on was heater controls (you know since that is what spawned all this ) I hooked up my new vacuum lines and my switch which i had taken apart and fixed and i all works now! I get heat and defrost flappers moving to the correct position and heat when i want it not heat when i dont. Hazaaa!

Sorry no pics of this stuff. It would have been of just random wiring and vacuum hook ups.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 03-25-2019, 03:58 PM
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I am 90% sure I have my stock amp gauge in my dash cluster parts box. I'll check tonight. You can have it for shipping if I do.
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Old 03-27-2019, 02:10 PM
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I am 90% sure I have my stock amp gauge in my dash cluster parts box. I'll check tonight. You can have it for shipping if I do.

That is Awesome Rang thank you!
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:13 PM
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Over the weekend I received the gas tank skid plate from bkilby thanks again!
I also changed my intake manifold gasket because I still had vacuum leaks! I was surprised at the ease the in which the intake bolts came out. They were tight but not rusted or rounded off at all, this was the first thing on the Wagon that has not fought me tooth and nail to take apart
Intake off, again surprised at how good the motor looked inside. No bent or overly worn push rods, no bits of metal or even fine metallic.

Intake manifold, man these cast iron intakes weigh a freaking ton! Obvious why you guys go to an aftermarket manifold just for weight savings alone!

That was most of Satuday, I did manage to get my fog lights working with new bulbs. Then immediately had the wire go bad somewhere its so patched together i have no doubt there is a brake somewhere in it. Apologies for no pictures.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:18 PM
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I did drive it home that day though. To test the gasket change out and carb tune.
Proof of it at my apartment, and that it still looks cool even parked next to a PT Cruiser!

I could not believe the difference in drivability after finally fixing all the vacuum leaks and properly tuning the carb! It was like night and day, i had such a rich fuel mixture just to keep the rig idling and even then when you would put it in gear it would lug so bad it would almost die. I bet i went from a 1500 RPM idle to a 650-700 RPM idle after the gasket change out.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 04-30-2019, 09:16 AM
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Hey all, sorry its been a while since i could work on the Wagon/Post anything.
Only small updates, the wife and I fitted a new to us but definitely used front bench seat. It is currently maroon which clashes with the blue interior great!
Things will continue to slow down this summer as it is at a stage that makes it very drivable. I will be digging into the wiring this summer. Pictures for above mentioned items to come.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 04-30-2019, 10:48 AM
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That's fantastic stuff! Those fog lights are SUUUper cool! sometimes those little fixes here and there are the most rewarding.
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...it still looks cool even parked next to a PT Cruiser!
I can't think of a vehicle that would not look cool, parked next to a PT Cruiser...
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Old 04-30-2019, 01:05 PM
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I agree rang

that wagoner looks like it would eat the PTCruiser for breakfast.

good job Taylor.

I would feel like a NASA engineer if I took an intake off and replaced it,
and found it worked after replacement !!!

I am not much of a wrenched, but admire those who are.

you are making it yours

I agree with the bench seat addition, more room for the wife to sit close, more room for the dog, the groceries, everything !!!

dave in NC
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Old 04-30-2019, 01:57 PM
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That's fantastic stuff! Those fog lights are SUUUper cool! sometimes those little fixes here and there are the most rewarding.

I can't think of a vehicle that would not look cool, parked next to a PT Cruiser...

I like the amber fog lights too, i am looking for new housings because these got rusty from sitting and the bulbs ground through the housing. That or just run a dedicated ground wire.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 04-30-2019, 02:04 PM
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I agree rang

that wagoner looks like it would eat the PTCruiser for breakfast.

good job Taylor.

I would feel like a NASA engineer if I took an intake off and replaced it,
and found it worked after replacement !!!

I am not much of a wrenched, but admire those who are.

you are making it yours

I agree with the bench seat addition, more room for the wife to sit close, more room for the dog, the groceries, everything !!!

dave in NC

The Wagon does look pretty mean next to the PT, thank you both for the kind words.
I am sure you could do the intake if you tried it is not very hard just very heavy! Again thank you.
I wasn't sure about the bench at first but after it was in and i sat in it, i absolutely loved it! Don't tell the wife but she was right on this one
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:10 PM
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Went to the Junkyard over the weekend to try and find some odds and ends. Nothing on these that I needed but look at how many they have!
Pure Junkyard Gold!

These Two Wide Track Cheros are for sale! Not parting out, one is a donor to the other, both are in pretty darn good shape. One is mostly gutted but has all the missing pieces for the other that is nearly all there.

Also here are 2 original gas tank skid plates, already removed waiting to be bought!
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:18 PM
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Over the last several weeks I've been working on a duel snorkel, like many of you have already done .
Here are the 2 to make 1.

The Cut!

I mocked up the one I want to use on the car and marked the rough center point of the two snorkels and the center point between both. (thats the silver sharpie marks)

Shows where the new snorkel will be grafted on, and how much of the flange i need to cut off to still keep that hose port.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:22 PM
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Heres with extra bits cut off for a more close representation.


Clamped together, to mock up on the Wagon to check clearances with the brake booster.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:28 PM
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Just decided to go for it. Been so long since i welded and it shows (should have done practice welds).


All together, time to grind

Sorry no pictures of all the grinding, just got in the zone. Here it is basically complete, need to sand blast and repaint but done and usable for now. I have been running it for the last week and the welds have held.
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:55 PM
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WHAT THE HECK?!?!? 5 Wagos?!?! And they look mostly rust free?!?!? I am lucky to see one FSJ every 4 months show up in my wrecking yards down here.

How much do they want for the Cherokees? they look like their fender flares are solid. Not that I am interested, just curious.

You air filter looks awesome! I love it!
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Old 05-13-2019, 01:03 PM
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They actually have 6 Wagons, but i couldn't fit it in the picture and there was a 90s Cherokee in between.

They were asking $3000 for both about 8 months ago when I questioned them. But i bet now you could talk them down.
The front flares are immaculate on both, but the first Chero in the pic has pretty bad rears. The second has repairable rears. Overall really good. Plus the rest of the second one is really clean, the first one has bad runners but again I'd use it as a donor to the second.

Thanks Marc, I used yours as inspiration!
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1977 Jeep Wagoneer (Wedding Wagon)
Pewter, Blue Interior, Original 401
PO swapped in a 360, soon to be a 401 again!
"Soon" is a relative term.
Cracked cylinder put a hurt on me + bad connecting rods.
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Old 05-13-2019, 01:50 PM
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nice dual snorkel breather
I want one too !

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