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Old 11-25-2021, 10:57 AM
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79 Cherokee value ?

Hi everyone.
By coincidence , while looking at an online property ad , i saw somthing jeep looking in the pictures of the property . Thinking it may be a car usable as parts for my J20 project , i got curious and found the name listed as the seller of the property , as the realesrate agents did not return my calls . It was a lawyer , selling the estate of a dead guy , and the jeep was for sale . It was a bit long away , but another coincidence had me driving a long trip , that made looking at this jeep only a 4 hour ekstra trip . I just had to go !
It seems to me to be a 1979 cherokee with chief s badges . 360 and 3 speed automatic . It looks to be almost rust free , and the blue interior seem to be all in order . I dont know for sure , as the doors was locked , but it may look like an levis interior ? It seem to me to have the grille used only between 79 and 80 ?

As i know little of cherokee’s , and i never see them for sale at my location , i wounder if members of this forum would have an opinion of what a car like this is worth ? What does a 79 cherokee sell for thies days ?

Link to pictures : https://imgur.com/a/jS2km3p

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Old 11-26-2021, 11:06 PM
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Not familiar with the exports, over here the rectangular headlights started in '80, and the cherk and trucks got the "muscle" grille. Don't have my book to breakout the Vin for the year. Should be able to do that online.

As to value, tough to say for Norway. Over here if running, I'd guess between $2000-2500 US.
He might take way less just to get it gone. Hit him low and see what the counter offer is. Probably be able to meet somewhere in the middle. You're going to have some work to do, even if running when parked. A lot is going to depend on engine/trans condition.
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Old 11-27-2021, 10:36 AM
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Not familiar with the exports, over here the rectangular headlights started in '80, and the cherk and trucks got the "muscle" grille. Don't have my book to breakout the Vin for the year. Should be able to do that online.

As to value, tough to say for Norway. Over here if running, I'd guess between $2000-2500 US.
He might take way less just to get it gone. Hit him low and see what the counter offer is. Probably be able to meet somewhere in the middle. You're going to have some work to do, even if running when parked. A lot is going to depend on engine/trans condition.

Regarding the grille , in the 1979 cataloge i got all have rectangular headlights ? different for exports vs domestics ?

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Old 11-27-2021, 12:12 PM
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VIN says it's a 1980
Far as value no idea but suspect in Norway even a parts truck is a rarity?

Grille as well as just about any part could have been replaced in 40ish years.
Looks complete and in decent shape though.
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Old 11-27-2021, 01:02 PM
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Before you make a offer on the jeep make sure that the engine is not locked up and have a look if there is still antifreeze in the radiator.
(One of the pictures showing green fluid on the intake manifold)

If you looked it over and under the carpet and it looks good and no big rust holes.
I would start with something around 1500-/2000- Euro.

(Overhere in Holland they go for 4000-euro in bad shape to around 20.000 in driveable condition.
The last ten years the value went up to crazy prices for the full size Jeeps
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Old 11-27-2021, 10:32 PM
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I found some history on the jeep at the "dmv" .
First registered in 1981 .
"current" owner had the car since 1984.
Plates taken off the car in 1997 .
2 owner car.
Also found out that the owner was a jeep enthusiast , and had several jeeps
at another location that has sold already.
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Old 11-27-2021, 10:44 PM
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Before you make a offer on the jeep make sure that the engine is not locked up and have a look if there is still antifreeze in the radiator.
(One of the pictures showing green fluid on the intake manifold)

If you looked it over and under the carpet and it looks good and no big rust holes.
I would start with something around 1500-/2000- Euro.

(Overhere in Holland they go for 4000-euro in bad shape to around 20.000 in driveable condition.
The last ten years the value went up to crazy prices for the full size Jeeps

I was not able to look inside and lift carpet . i did slide underneath and had a look.
could not see any rust beside surface rust. pretty straight body. chrome look good. window chrome was inside the car and looked ok. interior a bit dirt , but in good shape with no rips.
i have a good feeling about this one.
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Old 12-04-2021, 01:25 AM
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I agree with Heep. You can't go wrong with an offer of 1.500
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Old 12-10-2021, 11:48 AM
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Anyone know a trick to disable the stearingwheel lock if the keys cant be found ?
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Old 12-10-2021, 01:23 PM
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pull wheel and remove lock plate, then remove lock cylinder.

no "trick" to disable unless you want to break parts and have to replace them later.
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The lock cylinder can be pulled out when pressing a small black clip the is visible when removing the steering wheel and metal plate and horn contact ring that's behind the wheel.
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73' Jeep J4000 (named Heep or Desert Dragon) amc 360 V8 converted to LPG with T15/D20 (was my daily work truck for thirteen years and is going to have major overhaul
80' Jeep cj5 350 V8 Chevy/sm420/D300 project
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This shows exactly how it works
https://youtu.be/vDxUlSW7Ycs

Don't break the plastic tube that is on the horn contact ring
You need it to have the horn working!
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Jeep "because mother nature hates flat roads to"

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=180974

99' Dodge ram 2500 4x4 crew cab 5.9 Cummins ,backup work truck for now
73' Jeep J4000 (named Heep or Desert Dragon) amc 360 V8 converted to LPG with T15/D20 (was my daily work truck for thirteen years and is going to have major overhaul
80' Jeep cj5 350 V8 Chevy/sm420/D300 project
70/71 Jeep J4000 parts truck with Buick 350

Trucks/car's from the past:
85' Volkswagen caddy mk1 1.6 diesel.
83 Toyota land cruiser BJ42 3.4 diesel.

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Old 12-12-2021, 08:12 AM
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This shows exactly how it works
https://youtu.be/vDxUlSW7Ycs

Don't break the plastic tube that is on the horn contact ring
You need it to have the horn working!

Thanks ! Looks pretty straight forward .
Do know if the key needs to be in the lock to be able to pop it out ?
Removing lock cylinders on other cars i some times had to have key in , and Even turned to position 1 or 2 .

To clarify , i am not stealing the car . Seller just dont seem to know where the keys are .
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Old 12-12-2021, 12:38 PM
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Thanks ! Looks pretty straight forward .
Do know if the key needs to be in the lock to be able to pop it out ?
Removing lock cylinders on other cars i some times had to have key in , and Even turned to position 1 or 2 .

To clarify , i am not stealing the car . Seller just dont seem to know where the keys are .

Can't answer that question for you.
The cylinder lock in my 73' j4000 is worn out enough to pull the key out when in the run position.

Maybe you can pull a door lock cylinder and go with that to a lock smith.
A door lock is easy , there is a clip in the inner edge of the front doors when the doors are open.
https://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8962
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Jeep "because mother nature hates flat roads to"

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99' Dodge ram 2500 4x4 crew cab 5.9 Cummins ,backup work truck for now
73' Jeep J4000 (named Heep or Desert Dragon) amc 360 V8 converted to LPG with T15/D20 (was my daily work truck for thirteen years and is going to have major overhaul
80' Jeep cj5 350 V8 Chevy/sm420/D300 project
70/71 Jeep J4000 parts truck with Buick 350

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85' Volkswagen caddy mk1 1.6 diesel.
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Old 12-12-2021, 02:55 PM
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Can't answer that question for you.
The cylinder lock in my 73' j4000 is worn out enough to pull the key out when in the run position.

Maybe you can pull a door lock cylinder and go with that to a lock smith.
A door lock is easy , there is a clip in the inner edge of the front doors when the doors are open.
https://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8962

Ok , thank you 👍🏻
I can try to pull the ignition cylinder on the J20 , to find out if the key is needed.
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:53 AM
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Can't answer that question for you.
The cylinder lock in my 73' j4000 is worn out enough to pull the key out when in the run position.

I can confirm that the barrel can be removed without the key 👍🏻
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Old 12-14-2021, 12:43 PM
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So my plan failed.. my stearingwheel pulling tool that i made and used to pull the barrel on my j20 broke when trying to remove the stearingwheel on the cherokee. I did offcourse bring plenty tools and equipment , so i had to brake the barrel with a screwdriver and hammer . The starter would not run by key turn , so i took the wire from the relay and straight to the battery. After a few drinks of fuel in the carb , and a bit of coughing , it came to life .
It did not want to go forward or backward.. maybe no or little oil in the trans ?

Link to some photos and video : https://imgur.com/a/mlHN9Kl
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Wow! Good looking truck! Good save!
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Old 12-14-2021, 10:54 PM
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Wow! Good looking truck! Good save!

I dont know if i would say good looking ,, but it may be worth saving rather then parts . It needs a good wash all over before i take it in the workshop and see Whats up with the trans.
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Old 12-16-2021, 02:30 PM
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Pleasant suprise today .
Gave the cherokee at look underneath and oil , filter and coolant change.
It is pretty much rust free . Rotating wire brush is all that is required.
The oil looked good. Coolant was Nice and blue with no rusty water .
After rigging a small can of gas as fuel suply , the engine starts on fist turn.
1,5 liters of ATF added . It now goes back and forward.
Some mold and dirty interior . Back Seat is a nice denim levis seat. Front seats must be some copy ? Feels like lesser quality then the backseat .
Put a dehumidifyer inside for the night and hope it will dry up .
Some more pictures : https://imgur.com/a/sG0kP1I
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