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Old 06-15-2012, 04:22 PM
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Another steering shaft alternative

So I've seen the thread that an xj lower steering shaft will fit in an fsj upper shaft and thought I would do that since my rag joint was bad. When I went to look at my steering shaft the other day I noticed my U-joints were toast as well so I needed both a new upper and lower shaft or cobble together some junkyard shaft. I certainly wasn't about to pay $250 for a borgeson.

This is what I came up with.

The top shaft is my stock J10 steering shaft. The lower one is a CJ shaft for a CJ with manual steering. If you want to use a J20 box you can use a CJ shaft with power steering. The shaft is longer than a J10 shaft but telescopes in to fit perfectly. No hammering, no torches, just a bolt in ordeal. My shaft looks a bit rusty but it's actually brand new. I got it from my buddy at crown and it was in his "forgotten parts box". You can buy these brand new already painted and all that but this one was cheaper and still new.

Here it is installed

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Old 06-15-2012, 05:11 PM
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Great to know!
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what year CJ? would like to do this to my 75 J-10.
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:48 PM
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Great info. Thanks.
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:53 PM
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what year CJ? would like to do this to my 75 J-10.

Not sure the year range but I'm willing if you said 75 it would be correct. I got mine locally and every I looked online was much more expensive.
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:48 PM
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did the cj use the same box as the fsj? i tried the xj shaft on my 78 wag but it didnt work. box splines are different. just wondering what years this would work on.
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:47 PM
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It's not the year that you got wrong probably, it needs to be for a manual steering CJ. Otherwise it uses the larger splined shaft.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:02 PM
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it appears to be an old CJ (72-75), the newer 76-86 are different both at the top and at the bottom
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:02 PM
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people use the xj shaft, but it doesnt work on the 70s models. the box splines are different from the 80s models. im not sure what year is the break is. im interested in the cj piece for my 78 if it will work. im thinking if the cj shaft works on the 70s wags, it wouldnt work on the newer ones.
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I'm using the XJ shaft on my 79 J-20 box
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:47 PM
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I'm using the XJ shaft on my 79 J-20 box

You must be only using half of it. Both the lower and upper U-joints on my steering shaft were VERY worn. The upper end of a XJ shaft is different, I would be tempted to use the entire XJ column and shaft however if I found a good one.
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:23 PM
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84 Waggy?

So does anyone know what would be required for this shaft swap on an 84GW?
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:17 PM
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Borgesun sells their shafts for FSJs from 74-91. It looks like the this one will work. Some have a U-joint up top some have this.
http://cdn.stylincdn.com/is/image/Au...4_1?$STT_Main$

But it looks like it's the same, just two different styles for the same spline. Borgesun's shaft is ~$240 so even if you get this shaft for $100, it's still half as much.

This looks to be what I have
http://www.shopjeepparts.com/jeep-ma...86-p-3138.html
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So I've found these shafts in both the manual and power steering option. From your above posts, I need the power steering version to fit on a '77 J20 power steering box correct?
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:19 AM
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Correct, the power steering version has the larger splined end at the box.
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Old thread ...

It's not a '75 CJ factory shaft. The '72-75 CJ uses a bell coupler at the bottom end, not a U-joint. '76 and up CJ has a GM column and uses a bell coupler too.

Could be a Crown equivalent to the Borgeson CJ shaft replacement. But not the factory design. These are 5353135HD and 5354934HD for manual and power, resp. And they are for '76-up CJ. A quick check shows these at $180 retail - not much lless than the Borgeson product.
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Bringing up an old thread.
I'll be running a J-20 steering box here shortly so I just bought a steering shaft for a '76+ CJ with power steering. Crown# RT21011 for $105. I'll let everyone know how it works when I comes in.
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Old 04-01-2017, 11:53 AM
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Exclamation UPDATE

I received my steering shaft for a CJ with power steering (Crown #RT21011) and it DOES NOT FIT the J20 steering box. Wrong size end spline for the J20 box input. However, the shaft WILL FIT a J10, Cherokee, Wagoneer box. The steering shaft required for a J20 box is a shaft for a CJ with MANUAL steering. (Crown #RT21010)

So to clarify:
Wagoneer, Cherokee, J10 steering shaft - Crown RT21011 for a '76-'86 CJ w/pwr steering.
J20 steering shaft - Crown RT21010 for a '76-'86 CJ w/manual steering.

Hope this helps someone!
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