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Old 10-14-2020, 12:06 PM
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Rob's 1988 Baltic Blue & Tan Grand Wagoneer Restoration

Background:

I bought the old girl in mid-November of 2019 as a garage project, mostly to keep myself busy over the last winter, and as it turned out, during the ridiculous China virus lockdown scare.

I found it on FB Marketplace, listed by an older woman and her son thru her deceased husband's account. She wanted $2k, but based on pics and videos I told her I'd drive out from Boise with a trailer to her place in Vancouver, WA to inspect it and go from there.

What I saw in person was much worse than I thought I'd find, as it had a hard life, didn't run, and had a lot of interior floor pan rust, non-functioning electrics, and a lot of missing interior bits. We agreed on $1,200, poured gas down the carb, and gunned it onto the trailer before it died.

Apparently it started life in Berkeley, CA, then moved to Arkansas at some point, where I figure it was used as a hunting rig or something.

I'm still plugging away between work, health issues, and just plain old parts scrounging. Anyway, I'll post occasional pics as I continue piecing things together. Enjoy!
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2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877
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Old 10-14-2020, 12:10 PM
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10-4 we look forward to the build.
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Old 10-14-2020, 12:15 PM
MysticRob MysticRob is online now
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10-4 we look forward to the build.
dave in NC

Thanks, Dave. All the parts you sent me will be in these pics!

Here's a good look at my starting point. Incorrect earlier model-year door panels, destroyed seat upholstery, earlier-model, and broken, driver side seat without headrest, beat up dash, missing gear shift knob, door lock knobs, missing tailgate motor, mold, etc:
67503008_2330705303870846_7668228086223077376_n by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Skulls for gear shifter and door locks. Wrong driver seat (no headrest), broken center arm rest, non-functional dash lights, etc.
67507003_726449021129239_6772135034527678464_n by Robert Stone, on Flickr

No right rear window motor and earlier model year door panel. Window was held 'mostly up' by a piece of wood in the door, which allowed a lot of moisture in over however long it was like that.
74584869_2365235687123201_6550784592029155328_n by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Rear tailgate glass was held up by a strap, as the motor didn't exist. Tailgate had also been hit so rear bumper is slightly bent, and tailgate sheet metal was dented and bottom seam had popped. Scored a good assembly from a part-out a month after I bought the waggy.
65781697_342789046398686_4322004892517400576_n by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 10-14-2020, 12:35 PM
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Taking stock of everything once I got it into the garage. Had a ton of surface rust inside, mold, couple of rust-thru pinholes, and just general corrosion on everything. Both front and rear headliners were missing, figured they succumbed to the elements years ago.

Figured it best to start at the top where water usually gets in, so removed the roof rack, rails, and optional ASC sunroof.
IMG_20191125_183150 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

The optional sunroof. Pain to remove, found some broken bits, but want to keep it. Gunk on bottom of sunroof assembly is spray adhesive, not rust:
IMG_20191125_191004 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Some surface corrosion here and there, but otherwise in good shape.
IMG_20191125_190957 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 10-14-2020, 12:40 PM
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Cargo area had no carpet, no cargo rails, or fiberboard rib underlay, and a ton of screw holes that definitely were not from the factory cargo rails. Best guess is someone made some homemade tie-down points.
IMG_20191126_151221 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Started with yanking the seats out:
IMG_20191127_092928 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Look, a clean spot!
IMG_20191126_151228 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Carpet kit was trash so just yanked it and tossed it in the trash:
IMG_20191127_094655 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Good look at all the surface rust:
IMG_20191126_171009 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 10-14-2020, 12:45 PM
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Got tired of constantly pumping up the dry-rotted tires, so scored some used ones on FB for $150. Gave the seller his rims back after removing the good tires from them.
IMG_20191202_182855 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Good tires on the left, old crud on the right still mounted:
IMG_20191203_200437 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Had my wheels and center caps powder coated in semi-gloss black for $210. Too much surface corrosion to want to attempt a repaint, plus this looks meaner:
IMG_20191216_165336 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Finished product after mounting the tires:
IMG_20191217_190418 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 11-08-2020, 07:42 PM
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Hey rob - trying to take the sunroof out on mine which has been leaking probably for years based on the surface rust. It seems like the the metal casing/box is welded along the sides up where the glass is. Hard to describe, but did you find the same? Is that metal box two separate pieces hard to tell on mine with the rust. Appreciate any insight you have. Hope you are feeling better.
Kerry
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:57 PM
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Hey rob - trying to take the sunroof out on mine which has been leaking probably for years based on the surface rust. It seems like the metal casing/box is welded along the sides up where the glass is. Hard to describe, but did you find the same? Is that metal box two separate pieces? hard to tell on mine with the rust. Appreciate any insight you have. Hope you are feeling better.
Kerry

Not sure we have the exact same model sunroof, but based on convos with the sunroof doctor, mine is likely either the ASC 950 or a factory piece with the same measurement specs. What's the glass measure on yours?

The 950 "cam blocks" for the glass attachments match what I have too:
https://www.shopsar.com/ProductDetai...ctCode=SUN8225

Mine is just a huge solid slab of shaped metal. I'll take some better pics when I get healthy. Can you post a pic of yours here to compare?
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1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 10-14-2020, 12:14 PM
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Here she is on the trailer.
Note the badly biffed, and previously replaced, left front fender, the damaged driver side of the grill, and the dented front bumper.
They graciously swapped out the wheels I didn't like and fitted the older GW wheels (with dry-rotted tires).

IMG_20191123_171110 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 10-24-2020, 03:53 AM
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Sun Roof Assembly

Hey Rob,

Really nice work you're doing on your rig.

I have a complete, fully functioning sunroof assembly complete with motor, capacitor box, switch, everything. Opens and closes correctly with rear tilt functioning correctly. Let me know if you're interested in it.

text me on 415-516-0849
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Old 10-24-2020, 07:12 AM
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seat foam looks NEW !!!!!

you cleaned the HECK out of it !!!

sounds like pnlombardi has a rare find with the sunroof assembly.

dave in NC
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Here is what I have for a switch. This is out of an fsj it's switch is missing. the one with a switch is from an xj or zj. The other pic is a factory sunroof console front section. left is xj/zj right is fsj.
















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Old 10-25-2020, 08:25 PM
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It looks like it was just stuck on the end of the overhead console. How many wires are going into that particular switch?

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Here is what I have for a switch. This is out of an fsj it's switch is missing. the one with a switch is from an xj or zj. The other pic is a factory sunroof console front section. left is xj/zj right is fsj.

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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:59 PM
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Well, I took stock of the sunroof and I found all the bits and pieces. I can fix everything, but I do have a very worn gasket that goes around the rear top of the sunroof for water-tight integrity that I'll need to replace, and the small gasket that goes around the glass itself that also needs replaced. Not sure if anyone makes those replacements or not, but I'll see what I can figure out.

Otherwise, I got a PM, sent a couple PMs, and did more research on the switch and other bits. It'll be a couple weeks at least before I can figure out next moves there, but I think I'll keep the sunroof installed instead of a solid roof.

Most of the weekend was spent painting remaining backseat frames, and putting them together.
PXL_20201024_171522587 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Don't care about overspray here since the upholstery will cover it:
PXL_20201024_160736988 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Latch release and spring:
PXL_20201024_162751946 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Putting everything back together:
PXL_20201025_170048941 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Was able to clean the bolts, nuts, and rubber feet from donor very well:
PXL_20201025_170037817 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Installed and out of the way waiting for upholstery:
PXL_20201025_171244692 by Robert Stone, on Flickr

Opposite view:
PXL_20201025_171235019 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 10-26-2020, 11:15 AM
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It looks like it was just stuck on the end of the overhead console. How many wires are going into that particular switch?




It has 4


If you need this I'm more than happy to send it to you. whether it be the switch or the entire console part.
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