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Old 07-31-2021, 08:07 AM
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Need a shroud

Good morning all, I have a 68' with the AMC 327 that would love to drive more, but runs warm due to no shroud (and in FL.). I have casually searched for a few months but feel I need to get serious or the wife will make me sell. Are there any substitutes that can fit if no originals are around? Any insight would be greatly appreciated
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Old 08-01-2021, 10:33 PM
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Many aluminum ones available at BJ's etc.
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Old 08-01-2021, 10:35 PM
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May want to try a lower temperature thermostat first.
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Old 08-01-2021, 10:50 PM
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Good luck finding one. Actually that is a Buick 350. Shrouds for that engine are rarer than solid gold petrified hen's teeth. Pretty much made of unobtainium.

Might try a 180 or 160 t-stat, And check how bad the tubes in the radiator are plugged. Might have to either recore, replace or have it rodded out at a radiator shop if you can find one anymore.
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Old 08-02-2021, 04:38 AM
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Angry need a shroud

I was wrong on the engine. I have the AMC 327. Haven't looked at it in a few months, a noobie rookie mistake.
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Old 08-02-2021, 08:22 AM
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Unlikely you will find a factory shroud for either the '68 with a 327 or the '68 with a 350. BJ's sells a "universal" shroud kit, and I presume other places do too. There are several good web page descriptions of how to make a custom shroud using stretchy fabric and fiber glass. Search.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=make+a+fan+shroud

Nominally '68 was the first year for the 350, but a 327 registered as a '68 is quite possible. These cars were typically registered with their date of sale, and there is no definitive YOM (year of manufacture) in the VIN or registration. If you look under the hood, it's easy to recognize each engine.
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Old 08-02-2021, 10:41 AM
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summitracing has a universal cut to fit



https://www.summitracing.com/search/...iAAEgJd7vD_BwE



or make your own


https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/10...ind-blows-foam


there is a link on this site as well


http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=159476
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:09 PM
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I am having a problem with this too. I ended up ordering this from amazon. It should be here this week, i will let you know how it goes. https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Shro...%2C239&sr=8-14.
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Old 08-14-2021, 10:36 PM
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I have the shroud almost finished and took a lot of pictures but i cant seem to figure out how to upload them here. I am still working on it but i am working this weekend so only have time after work. If you have any question feel free.
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Old 08-27-2021, 04:02 AM
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Are you able to send pics via text message? If so, I can private meassage with number.
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Old 08-28-2021, 10:36 PM
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Yes i can. So far it's been working well. I have a 4x4 trip planned for next weekend so we will see how well it works.
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Old 08-30-2021, 07:14 AM
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I have the shroud almost finished and took a lot of pictures but i cant seem to figure out how to upload them here. ...
The site will not host your pictures, so no drag-and-drop posting. You have to put them somewhere online and either post a link to them or hot-link into the forum.

If you go to the "Introduce Yourself" area there is a sticky thread at the top of the forum about posting pictures.

My only concern with an aluminum shroud in a Jeep is the fan tangling with the shroud and sending it into the radiator. This can happen in a water crossing, where the water deflects the spinning blades and they collide with the shroud or radiator. (Take the fan belt off for water crossings). Or if you are fully flexed out, the engine to body alignment can change and send the fan into the shroud.
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:09 AM
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The site will not host your pictures, so no drag-and-drop posting. You have to put them somewhere online and either post a link to them or hot-link into the forum.

If you go to the "Introduce Yourself" area there is a sticky thread at the top of the forum about posting pictures.

My only concern with an aluminum shroud in a Jeep is the fan tangling with the shroud and sending it into the radiator. This can happen in a water crossing, where the water deflects the spinning blades and they collide with the shroud or radiator. (Take the fan belt off for water crossings). Or if you are fully flexed out, the engine to body alignment can change and send the fan into the shroud.

Thank you for the help I signed up for flickr and now it's easy. as far as water crossings i live in southern california so not too worried about water crossings that deep. As you can see in the pic i have the autozone special radiator and my fan sits about 3 1/2" away so the stock fan shroud (what was left of it) didn't even cover the fan. My plan was this weekend to test it out with the flex on a 4x4 trip to the mountains but as of today they have closed all national forest in Ca due to fire danger. I can tell you that it is running way cooler around town. 160* to 180*

You can see here that the width is good.

but here you can see that the height is too tall

so i cut the shroud down the center and just overlapped it so i could rivet it back together at the correct height.

I then marked the fan shroud at the center of the water pump pulley and cut it out 1 1/2" larger than the fan which gives me 3/4" around the outside of the blades. Then used the supplied hardware to attach the fan opening.

After it was all together i test fitted it several times, when i was happy with it i then used the aluminum welding rods from HF and sealed all the gaps which also strengthened the crap out of it.
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Old 08-31-2021, 12:39 PM
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That looks really good! Will it be easy to remove when you need to work on the fan or water pump? Give a follow up after you have had it on awhile.
My favorite tool, those soft face dead blow hammers!!
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Old 08-31-2021, 03:06 PM
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[quote=oregonphil]That looks really good! Will it be easy to remove when you need to work on the fan or water pump? Give a follow up after you have had it on awhile.
My favorite tool, those soft face dead blow hammers!![/QUOTE


The fan needs to be removed at the same time but it's not too bad at all.
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Old 08-31-2021, 07:16 PM
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Cool tutorial, thank you for posting the details.
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