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Old 03-18-2021, 09:13 PM
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Time for another build update. I started another thread to discuss courses of action on my leaking rear freeze plug, so will tackle that later.
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthre...14#post1727414

Figured I'd see what else mechanically needed done, so started it up today, and was able to verify the transmission works great in reverse and all 3 forward gears.

Decided to push my luck and try the NP229 transfer case operation and it did nothing at all, so I figured out I had no vacuum connection whatsoever going to the switch due to an old broken red line and previous owner butcher job.

I ran a new route from the intake to the vacuum ball and into the red line after checking online and seeing proper vacuum route running. Apparently nothing goes to the left side port next to the yellow line:


Here's a video of it under its own power for the first time in years. Not sure how to embed the video from Flickr so click the pic and it'll take you there to play it:
PXL_20210319_001131283 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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Old 03-19-2021, 07:36 AM
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sounds strong.
choke works !

people seeing that in the drive
have no idea the amount of work that has already been done

...and done very well I might ad.

can't wait for you to get some highway time.

thanx for the update and video.

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Old 03-20-2021, 09:14 PM
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Yeah, that was nice, Dave.
It's getting closer just doing clean-up, but still need to get the front door panels done.
Got the new vinyl and trim piece on last night:


Got the moisture barrier on today and taped off the usual windy areas:


Passenger side door panel is now on:


If anyone needs a good way to do the woodgrain vinyl without removing the wing window rubber, just duct tape it out of the way:


Had to do some gardening today in the backyard (new grass seed) but had enough time to do the driver side vinyl and trim piece. Door panel should go on tomorrow:
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Old 03-21-2021, 08:13 AM
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Mystic Rob

Thanks for the door vinyl tip. What would we do without duct tape and plastic ties, I am doing my doors this week.
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Old 03-23-2021, 09:10 AM
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fine job
all is looking great !!!

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Old 03-23-2021, 12:41 PM
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Thanks for the door vinyl tip. What would we do without duct tape and plastic ties, I am doing my doors this week.

Nice. Probably the most satisfying part I've completed besides the seats.

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fine job
all is looking great !!!

dave in nc

Why thank you, kind sir. I took all the best cargo rails and used them, still ended up having enough to create almost 2 more sets after finding some in the salvage yard before those wagoneers were scrapped.

I felt lethargic Sunday so didn't finish the front door panel installs yet, but have made some inroads on cleaning the doors up.

Got my window felt kit and labeled the sections for install later:


Also bought a couple generic panel push pins for the door panels and shaved them down to fit the door holes and panels. I'll take the passenger side panel off to fit that pin soon.
One each goes on the upper rear section of the panel in a small slit built into the panels. I twisted them 90* to secure in the panel:




Also bought some 3/8" thick cotton "rope" from a local Joann's to dress up the outer edges of the cargo trim panels. The new carpet kit didn't have any padding that builds those edges up so the panel edges looked flat, like the lower left here, when I installed them. I'll tuck this rope inside those edges and make it look much better:
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 03-23-2021, 02:06 PM
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I am soo jealous of all your win! Your interior looks magical! I love the carpet. Any news on a leakdown/compression test? Any more test drives?
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Old 03-24-2021, 10:54 AM
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I am soo jealous of all your win! Your interior looks magical! I love the carpet. Any news on a leakdown/compression test? Any more test drives?

I got the 2 test kits sitting in the garage, but figured I'd finish the interior before my Dad comes out to lend an assist on the rear freeze plug(s). Thought I'd do those tests while he's here over the next week.

I was surprised how solid the old girl felt doing 30mph in the neighborhood, figured the shocks and steering stabilizer were all toast since there are no identifying markings on them anymore. I still need to remove and center the steering wheel though, it's way off at this point.
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Old 03-24-2021, 09:23 PM
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You should be able to center the steering wheel with the drag link. No need to remove the steering wheel.
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Old 03-24-2021, 11:17 PM
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Yeah, the only reason you want to mess with the steering wheel is if the box is off center when the wheels are straight.

Jack it up and put the axle on stands. Turn the wheel stop to stop making sure it's the box itself that's stopping, not axle stops. Disconnect the drag link if necessary. Count the turns and go half way back from one side and see where you are.

That's the starting point. Remove steering the wheel if necessary and center it there and then adjust the drag link to center the wheels there.

Then adjust the axle stops so you aren't bottoming the box itself out.
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Old 03-26-2021, 10:41 AM
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You should be able to center the steering wheel with the drag link. No need to remove the steering wheel.

Reason I mention taking the wheel off is I know I put it on a bit crooked, but now that I think about it I never verified the other wheel that was on it was centered either. I'll verify over the weekend and correct whatever way is easier.
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Old 03-26-2021, 02:30 PM
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You don't want to be driving with the box off center so the wheels have to be centered to the box.

Steering wheel doesn't really matter except aesthetically.
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Old 03-26-2021, 09:21 PM
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You don't want to be driving with the box off center so the wheels have to be centered to the box.

Steering wheel doesn't really matter except aesthetically.

Understood. Hopefully I can get that straightened out this weekend.
Tonight was fixing some things on the passenger door panel I didn't like, sealing it properly, and putting everything back together again.


Some of the door panel clip inserts had busted loose (typical on old board-based panels) so I took some wood glue, and small shipping box bits to build them back up, then glued and stapled caps to the holes. This works very well once the glue dries:


Panel is back on and seated properly against the door:


Sealed the driver side:


Pain in the butt and dumb design on the power mirror controller. There's a small allen-keyed set screw that tightens onto the metal ring that goes around the mirror controller to hold it in the mirror panel trim piece:


And driver side door panel is finally on and done:
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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 03-27-2021, 09:47 AM
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Your panels looks soooo nice!!! Almost NOS!
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Old 03-27-2021, 10:05 AM
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Your panels looks soooo nice!!! Almost NOS!

Thanks, Marc.

If only they'd made them with darker lowers to hide imperfections and dirt, etc. That original tan color just didn't look good at all to me, and thankfully the Katzkin seat covers have that Parchment color that is almost dead-on perfect from many angles.

My 72yr old Dad is headed here from CO to help me do the rest of the mechanicals (like freeze plugs!) and get the old girl to a point where I can register and smog her here.
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Old 03-28-2021, 09:27 PM
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More accomplished this weekend.
I bought a replacement bumper while travelling thru Reno in Dec. 2019 to replace the original that had been hit and split apart over 1/2" on that driver side that also ruined the grill and left front fender.

About that time I also I bought replacement bumper brackets off ebay since the originals were too bent in the collision to use on the good bumper.

My son had to help me take the original bracket bolts off the damaged bumper to swap everything over, but once that was done I was able to install everything pretty easy. I also did a little metal shaping on a very small indent on the lower left of the donor grill near the lower left fender section (must be a popular collision point!):



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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 03-31-2021, 02:09 PM
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Decided to pull the transfer case and transmission out from under the beast instead of yanking the engine. I didn't have access to a cherry picker, not a lot of room to work up front, and that entire tunnel area needed steam cleaned anyway. My Dad is visiting so we decided to make a father/son project of it for a few days.

The engine has no oil leaks but the transmission sure did. I also wanted to run some new wire loom for the transmission wiring, and generally take stock of what else might need done back there after I accessed the rear of the block to diagnose and treat that coolant system leak. I think I made the right decision, as I had plenty of time, and room to work under it.

Things were pretty coated and nasty from the transmission fluid leak ahead of the transfer case:


Tranny ran well but I know the shift shaft seal, throttle kickdown linkage seal, and the dipstick tube o-ring needed replacing due to massive leak on both sides of the tranny:


Both rear freeze plugs were leaking, though the driver side was worse:


Shiny new brass plugs. I used Dorman 565-034, Measurement is 1.75" if anyone needs them in the future:


Both seals on the transmission shift shaft were toast:


Cleaned and replaced both the shift shaft and kickdown seals:
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Old 04-01-2021, 12:08 AM
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Wow! Them were some rusty dudes!!! Gees! Did you get it all put back together? What's next?
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Old 04-01-2021, 08:09 AM
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Wow! Them were some rusty dudes!!! Gees! Did you get it all put back together? What's next?

Yeah, looks like they were leaking for just a bit, eh?

We got the tranny mounted last night. Curious if this transmission mount is "original" or not. It sure was a complicated process to get it back in, seeing as how there are bolts everywhere in the lattice-work that make up both the crossmember, the rubber mount, the exhaust bracket, and the various nuts and bolts that interfere with getting the 2 bolts into the bottom of the tranny (still loose in the pic. Never mind the wood behind everything used to hold up the tranny, or the "optional" garden hose to the cat).





If all goes well tonight, we'll install the transfer case, the associated vacuum lines and diaphragm, both drive shafts, then we're done underneath.
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Old 04-03-2021, 08:20 AM
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Dad and I got the transfer case in last night, along with all the associated bracketry, vacuum lines, and switches. The original hard plastic vacuum lines down there on the driver side of the transfer case were in bad shape so of course the green one broke multiple times, and the red one was routed oddly. I have some great Verocious Motorsports 3.5mm hose that I use for the BMW that worked great to slip on the broken green length and make it whole again.

Today will be putting the rear driveshaft back in, doing a fluid change on the transfer case, and generally going over our work to ensure we didn't miss anything.

Best news so far is we don't have any spare parts left over, so I guess we did okay.
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