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  • Rare Super Chief?

    I am trying to sell a bus on craigslist and in the add I put maybe open to partial trades etc.
    Well anyway, I got a nibble on the bus and the guy says he has a 1982 Cherokee Super Chief.
    OK, now I think I got a pretty good handle on most of what AMC/Jeep offered over the years, but I have not really paid a whole lot of attention to the 1980 and up stuff. And I know AMC may have done some obscure strang things in the day but, did they really make a Super Chief model?
    Or is it more than likely a previous owner/dealer sticker package to try to gold plate a turd.
    I have seen early eighties 4-door Cherokee Chiefs (not a wide track either)but I am not sure those were factory built either.

    Here is his response/description: enjoy,

    It's a little rusty but nothing that isn't worth fixing up. I just rebuilt the motor (360 AMC) 6000 miles. It has a edelbrock intake and 4 barrel carb. 1979 ported heads. brand new true dual exhaust. functional hood scoop. all 4 air shocks. It looks like a 2 door wagoneer on steroids. it's has wider axles than a wagoneer though. which is the main reason that makes it a super chief. they were pretty rare. chrysler 727 original tranny. shift in the fly 4x4. I try to send pics after work today

    Either way I gotta see this thing, if we can come to an agreement on trading values it may be good for parts for the rest of the herd.
    Hello, I am Brad. I have JOCD (Jeep Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) If you can admit you might have a problem, is it really a problem?

    JEEPS-N-Stuff:
    1998, Grand Cherokee, dd.
    1987, Grand Wagoneer, Pimped, totalled by hail storm...
    1977, CJ5
    1976, J10
    1949, Willys Jeepsterrr
    1948, Willys Jeep truck
    1942, Ford 1-1/2ton, Marmon-Herrington 4x4

  • #2
    I think he thinks the Wide Track option make it a super chief.

    I have heard some old timer jeep sales guys call my 82 a super chief When its a Cherokee chief wide track
    Jenny SOLD
    1982 Cherokee Chief Wide Track
    4 inch lift
    360 ci Edelbrock carb and intake
    115K
    Daisy
    1970 Wagoneer by Kaiser
    350 Buick/Turbo 400
    3.73:1 Limited slip
    41K original miles
    Lilly
    SOLD your a good girl LILLY!
    1973 Commando by Jeep
    304 2V 3:73 Limited Slip
    3 Speed
    93K original miles

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    • #3
      Its because its a Cherokee Chief "S" model. Which they all are that I have seen.

      Since the Chief emblem has a red "S" on it, people assume its means Super..

      Works for me cause in my opinion they are SUPER....

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      • #4
        IIRC there was a Super Chief, but it was a 4-Door Wagoneer with W/T axles and flairs.

        I think that's what they where called. Dealer mods from what I remember. A member here has one.
        Thomas Russell
        1987 Cherokee Laredo 2-Door 4.0/AW4
        1971 Gladiator
        J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

        1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
        1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400

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        • #5
          Sounds like a regular old W/T chero when people start using the words RARE ecc they think there sitting on a gold mine or something

          What type of school bus and what engine is it packing
          87' Grand Wagoneer
          401/727/229, Currently:RUNNING
          84 J10/20 hybrid 258/727/208 Daily Driver
          80' J10 4BT/AX-15/208
          74' J10 Go Grabber Green Sold
          Originally posted by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
          Inferior Chevy

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KaiserMan
            IIRC there was a Super Chief, but it was a 4-Door Wagoneer with W/T axles and flairs.

            I think that's what they where calle Dealer mods from what I remember. A member here has one.
            ^

            X2

            The real "super chief" was a package from a dealer : it was a wagoneer converted to W/T axles and flares, so like a Cherokee Chief with 4 doors. Maybe the super chief package included also a 401 ? I have an article reprint somewhere..
            J10 sportside '81, J10 Golden Eagle '77, Wagoneer '65, Gladiator '64 + parts rigs

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            • #7
              This is a real Super Chief from 1977.

              As mentioned, it was a dealer upgrade. There is a member in Denver area that has an 86 GW that was converted. I don't think they were referred to as Super Chiefs except by the dealer (forget name) that made the ones like above.

              This is Scott's build thread on his WT GW:
              http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=120472
              Flint
              Ran when parked.
              http://jubileejeeps.org/quadratrac
              88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
              76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
              http://eviltwinfab.com http://www.ttsfabworks.com

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              • #8
                QUOTE dmntxn77Its because its a Cherokee Chief "S" model. Which they all are that I have seen.

                I used to think this as well but it is not true. The "Chief" is a trim package not a body style. Trim packages for the Cherokee included the S, Chief, and Golden Eagle. You had a choice of only one.
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                • #9
                  not true if it is a chief then it has to be an s as it would be a step above an s with all the smae trim and then some.
                  85 gw 215k and still going
                  castrated(de-wooded)360 2" espo springs 31x10.5
                  89 gw,free,almost legal

                  She can dance a Cajun rhythm,Jump like a Willys in four wheel drive,

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                  • #10
                    the S don't mean Squat

                    All Chief head badges have the S. AMC put it there so people like us would ponder endless hours about it's true meaning.
                    Flint
                    Ran when parked.
                    http://jubileejeeps.org/quadratrac
                    88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
                    76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
                    http://eviltwinfab.com http://www.ttsfabworks.com

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mattmopar440
                      Sounds like a regular old W/T chero when people start using the words RARE ecc they think there sitting on a gold mine or something

                      What type of school bus and what engine is it packing
                      It's an 89 Ford B700, 66 passenger Carpenter body.
                      Brasilian Ford built I6 Turbo Diesel w/Allison automatic tranny.

                      I bought it to move and store some of my extra parts when I moved from Michigan to Minnesota. Worked great as self propelled mobil storage.
                      Hello, I am Brad. I have JOCD (Jeep Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) If you can admit you might have a problem, is it really a problem?

                      JEEPS-N-Stuff:
                      1998, Grand Cherokee, dd.
                      1987, Grand Wagoneer, Pimped, totalled by hail storm...
                      1977, CJ5
                      1976, J10
                      1949, Willys Jeepsterrr
                      1948, Willys Jeep truck
                      1942, Ford 1-1/2ton, Marmon-Herrington 4x4

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                      • #12
                        Didn't the "S" stand for Sport? Since the Chief trim included the S trim pak the S was incorporated into the Chief badge.
                        I think the dealer you guys are talking about was prolly Brian Chuchua Jeep in SoCal.
                        joe
                        "Don't mind me. I'm just here for the alibi"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by talntar
                          not true if it is a chief then it has to be an s as it would be a step above an s with all the smae trim and then some.
                          Perhaps I misunderstood the Jeep sales Brochure?
                          FSJ Hybrid build thread: http://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums/...ad.php?t=43332
                          We are Borg, but we don't know it yet.
                          We are being assimilated but we don't know it yet.
                          Resistance is not futile yet.
                          Are you and your children connected yet?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by joe
                            Didn't the "S" stand for Sport? Since the Chief trim included the S trim pak the S was incorporated into the Chief badge.
                            I think the dealer you guys are talking about was prolly Brian Chuchua Jeep in SoCal.

                            Hey Joe, do you happen to have any info on Brian Chuchua or know where I can find it? I believe I have one of his conversions and I have been trying to find out more information for awhile now. Can't seem to find much on the net.
                            Scott R.

                            '86 Grand Wagoneer Super Chief 360 / TBI / WT conversion / 35x12.5x16 BFG Mud-Terrains (Project Link)
                            http://www.cfsja.org / http://www.fsjnetwork.com

                            "After years of being paranoid about my Jeep?s temp going towards that 220F mark, I?m realizing that if it was real problem, Jeep engineers would have painted that area RED." - FSJ Guy




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                            • #15
                              Oh of course it's one of those RARE models!



                              Brian Chuchua out west and Hinkles in SC were two of the biggest and best Jeep dealers in the world. They installed lift kits, tire/wheel combos, headers, engine swaps etc...right at the dealer and sold the Jeeps that way brand new.

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