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  • 1989 Ol Jeep TSM Crashes

    Anyone else have this issue - it's a big file-mine almost loads completely and then crashes -suggestions?
    James

    '88 GW Sterling Silver Metallic
    Previously 1987 GW

  • #2
    I spent 25 bucks and bought the cd. Has the parts manual as well as the service manual. Worth the 25 bucks
    http://s1191.photobucket.com/albums/z469/selkplitt/
    1989 Grand Waggy stock
    2007 Commander Rock Mountain with QuadradriveII 4.7
    2018 GMC Canyon Denali 2.8 Duramax

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    • #3
      Yep, in fact need to find the TSM specific to the 1988 as they are a little different here and there
      James

      '88 GW Sterling Silver Metallic
      Previously 1987 GW

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      • #4
        Just downloaded it. Works fine. Make sure you have enough room for the file.

        BJ's web site says the '89 manual covers '88. Faxon shows the MR253 '84-88 for your vehicle.
        https://www.faxonautoliterature.com/...5356&keywords=
        Tim Reese
        Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
        Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
        Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
        GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
        ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tgreese
          Just downloaded it. Works fine. Make sure you have enough room for the file.

          BJ's web site says the '89 manual covers '88. Faxon shows the MR253 '84-88 for your vehicle.
          https://www.faxonautoliterature.com/...5356&keywords=
          Faxon might be out of stock - was hoping they had it on CD, I have a CD for my '83 Dodge, so nice to be able to print out a page when needed. Thanks Tim
          James

          '88 GW Sterling Silver Metallic
          Previously 1987 GW

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          • #6
            Faxon should be a last resort.


            BJ's have a (non-faxon) reprint?


            In not try Bishko
            '85 Grand Wagoneer
            360 727auto, NP229
            body by beer (PO)
            carries wood inside
            no "wood" outside
            My other car is a fish

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            • #7
              Thanks, I like the Bishko I have for my Dodge
              James

              '88 GW Sterling Silver Metallic
              Previously 1987 GW

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              • #8
                Does the m.r.244 factory manual actually cover the Grand Wagoneer? Hard to tell
                James

                '88 GW Sterling Silver Metallic
                Previously 1987 GW

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                • #9
                  Faxon is the only one that will have the original paper copy from Jeep/Chryco. You might find the original manual on eBay too. BJ's may be selling the Bishko reprint in some form. Any of them should be a reprint of the factory publication, originally sold to customers across the dealership parts counters for several years after these cars were new. They are meant as a reference for the line mechanics/techs at the dealership, and won't teach you anything about cars that an ASE certified tech would already know.

                  You could also refer to the 3rd party manuals. Don't know if these still existed in 1988, but there were "Motors Manuals" that covered a single year and all vehicles from that year. These were meant for independent shops and gas stations. There are manuals by Chiltons and Haynes that are sold in parts stores typically; these cover many years of the same vehicle. May be useful if you need more help than an ASE tech would need. Caution - IME they are rife with errors.

                  The modern solution is an AllData subscription, which will put all-makes manuals online for you to read. It's about $200 ... per month.
                  Tim Reese
                  Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
                  Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
                  Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
                  GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
                  ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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                  • #10
                    Faxon's publications are on thin paper and poorly bound. I've posted about this in the past. BJ's was selling manual's from a different source.

                    You can tell immediately upon looking at the cover.

                    How other companies are doing publishing reprints when Faxon is the 'officially licensed' company for Chrysler, I do not know. I just know they do not have exclusive except for certain items, such as assembly blueprints.


                    The Hayne's Wagoneer, J-Truck, Grand Wagoneer Repair Manual is pretty good for an an aftermarket book. They use a 70's and an 1986 FSJ for all the photos. I found it worth it just for the photos, even though mine's an '85. For some things the procedures are pretty helpful. For other things not.



                    Alldata had a much cheaper deal for folks like us. I haven't checked in a while, but it let users access info on 1 to 3 vehicle models for around $20 a month. I almost subscribed when helping a lady friend with a Ranger.
                    '85 Grand Wagoneer
                    360 727auto, NP229
                    body by beer (PO)
                    carries wood inside
                    no "wood" outside
                    My other car is a fish

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                    • #11
                      Thanks - I like the CD's - as previously mentioned, so nice to be able to print out a page and take to workbench, etc.
                      James

                      '88 GW Sterling Silver Metallic
                      Previously 1987 GW

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by warmblood58
                        Does the m.r.244 factory manual actually cover the Grand Wagoneer? Hard to tell
                        MR253 is what your after, MR244 is XJ
                        All the supplements for mr253 manual are on oljeep.com
                        I scanned them and sent copies to Tom.
                        https://oljeep.com/edge_mr253_IS.html

                        There is no 1988 Jeep Manual. They skipped many years of manuals opting to just add to mr253 via supplements.
                        The '89 or '90 Jeep Manuals do exist and cover the small changes, but also include other models than SJ. There are also some errors in them in regard to SJ.
                        MR253 is more than adequate for a 1988. The SJ Jeep changed very little after acquisition by Chrysler.
                        Tony
                        88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                        • #13
                          Thanks babywag!
                          James

                          '88 GW Sterling Silver Metallic
                          Previously 1987 GW

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