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I found a site listing the M715 at a curb weight of 5,500lbs with a GVWR of 8,400:
http://www.geocities.com/matt99tj/Kaiser.htm
J20s have been documented here as having up to 8,400GVWR.
This M715 info raises an interesting question, if these following specs (which appear to be from a TSM) are accurate and the M715 is known as a 5/4 ton and it's GVWR is 8,400lbs then the 8,400GVWR J20 should be considered a 5/4 ton also? I know that many consider the J20 to be only a 3/4 ton in all it's ratings... but this info appears to contradict that:
CURB WEIGHT, FULLY EQUIPPED LESS PAYLOAD AND CREW, FRONT AXLE 2800 LBS.
CURB WEIGHT, FULLY EQUIPPED LESS PAYLOAD AND CREW, REAR AXLE 2700 LBS.
TOTAL CURB WEIGHT, BOTH AXLES 5500 LBS.
PAYLOAD* CROSS COUNTRY LIMITED** 2500 LBS.
PAYLOAD* HIGHWAY 3000 LBS.
GROSS WEIGHT, FULLY EQUIPPED, PLUS PAYLOAD AND CREW, FRONT AXLE 3000 LBS.
GROSS WEIGHT, FULLY EQUIPPED, PLUS PAYLOAD AND CREW, REAR AXLE 5400 LBS.
TOTAL GROSS WEIGHT, BOTH AXLES 8400 LBS.
TOWED LOAD ALLOWANCE, CROSS COUNTRY 2840 LBS.
TOWED LOAD ALLOWANCE, HIGHWAY 3590 LBS.
Whatch'all think? Am I cracked? (you don't have to answer that )
Here's the VIN Tag on Jeff's '75 SRW J20 showing the 8,000lb GVWR (should classify this as a one ton):
The dually's were rated up to 8,600 and the heaviest was the 3406Z w/327 V8 & Stakebed which weighed in at a curb of 4,897lbs (approx payload of 3,703lbs and about 800lbs more then the M715):
The VIN for the '79 J20 I parted for my project (J9A46YN083004) breaks down as a 8,400 rated truck. Figure a heavy J20 might weigh 5,000lbs, that would be a payload of 3,400lbs (400lbs over the M715's rating). I'll try to get a pic of the VIN tag.
Can anyone with an M715 TSM validate the above specs?
Maybe, by today's standards the M715 is really only in the 3/4 ton range? The '98-99 4x4 HD F250 has a payload capacity of 3,595lbs. Not sure how to slice this, maybe the heaviest duty J20 just matches up with a current F250 after all, or all of today's rigs are far under rated for their capacity (which is what I think the real case is here, since a ton is a constant in all these payload equations).
Would any M715 owner hesitate to put 1 1/4 ton in their beast? I doubt it, and in fact I've seen a pic of one with a Willys in the bed that looked like the rig hardly cared it was back there.
[ September 19, 2004, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: Elliott ]
http://www.geocities.com/matt99tj/Kaiser.htm
J20s have been documented here as having up to 8,400GVWR.
This M715 info raises an interesting question, if these following specs (which appear to be from a TSM) are accurate and the M715 is known as a 5/4 ton and it's GVWR is 8,400lbs then the 8,400GVWR J20 should be considered a 5/4 ton also? I know that many consider the J20 to be only a 3/4 ton in all it's ratings... but this info appears to contradict that:
CURB WEIGHT, FULLY EQUIPPED LESS PAYLOAD AND CREW, FRONT AXLE 2800 LBS.
CURB WEIGHT, FULLY EQUIPPED LESS PAYLOAD AND CREW, REAR AXLE 2700 LBS.
TOTAL CURB WEIGHT, BOTH AXLES 5500 LBS.
PAYLOAD* CROSS COUNTRY LIMITED** 2500 LBS.
PAYLOAD* HIGHWAY 3000 LBS.
GROSS WEIGHT, FULLY EQUIPPED, PLUS PAYLOAD AND CREW, FRONT AXLE 3000 LBS.
GROSS WEIGHT, FULLY EQUIPPED, PLUS PAYLOAD AND CREW, REAR AXLE 5400 LBS.
TOTAL GROSS WEIGHT, BOTH AXLES 8400 LBS.
TOWED LOAD ALLOWANCE, CROSS COUNTRY 2840 LBS.
TOWED LOAD ALLOWANCE, HIGHWAY 3590 LBS.
Whatch'all think? Am I cracked? (you don't have to answer that )
Here's the VIN Tag on Jeff's '75 SRW J20 showing the 8,000lb GVWR (should classify this as a one ton):
The dually's were rated up to 8,600 and the heaviest was the 3406Z w/327 V8 & Stakebed which weighed in at a curb of 4,897lbs (approx payload of 3,703lbs and about 800lbs more then the M715):
The VIN for the '79 J20 I parted for my project (J9A46YN083004) breaks down as a 8,400 rated truck. Figure a heavy J20 might weigh 5,000lbs, that would be a payload of 3,400lbs (400lbs over the M715's rating). I'll try to get a pic of the VIN tag.
Can anyone with an M715 TSM validate the above specs?
Maybe, by today's standards the M715 is really only in the 3/4 ton range? The '98-99 4x4 HD F250 has a payload capacity of 3,595lbs. Not sure how to slice this, maybe the heaviest duty J20 just matches up with a current F250 after all, or all of today's rigs are far under rated for their capacity (which is what I think the real case is here, since a ton is a constant in all these payload equations).
Would any M715 owner hesitate to put 1 1/4 ton in their beast? I doubt it, and in fact I've seen a pic of one with a Willys in the bed that looked like the rig hardly cared it was back there.
[ September 19, 2004, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: Elliott ]
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