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  • 2021 Grand Wagoneer Reveal

    This photo was just on Jeep's instagram:

    1984 GW
    360
    Comp 260H
    Harland Sharp Roller Rockers
    Wiseco -21cc Forged Pistons
    Performer Intake
    Holley SA 670
    MSD 8523
    Dakota Digital custom cluster
    Serehill headlamp harness
    NWMP aux tank

    1987 GW deceased
    ...but the parts live on

  • #2
    They also shared a post a couple of days prior, with a quote of the definition of the word "Grand", so I expect it will be the full on Grand Wagoneer they're teasing.

    I'm pretty excited to see what it will be like, I think it will be great for Jeep to have a rival to the Suburban, Escalade, Expedition, Navigator etc, even if it isn't the same as the old Wagoneer.
    1991 Grand Wagoneer - Hunter Green. All stock. Rebuilt 360, .030" over with Melling MTA-1 cam.

    1998 Cherokee (XJ) 4.0
    1997 Grand Cherokee (ZJ) 4.0
    1974 Ford F100 390

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    • #3
      I would prefer a more spartan, classic version that would have great off-road capability. However I expect this will be another another "Commander" type vehicle - a WINO (Wagoneer in name only). The Gladiator is okay on the outside but all that plastic and electronics inside ruins it for me. Same with the new Bronco. The last thing I want on the trail is a 12" touch screen.
      Cliff Danley
      1977 Cherokee S

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      • #4
        It'll probably be cheaper to buy a Range Rover or Toyota Land Cruiser.

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        • #5
          GW

          here ya go...https://www.caranddriver.com/jeep/wa...grand-wagoneer
          1966 J-3600 Gladiator, 304 AMC, T-18/D-20 twin stick, D44/D53, custom mandrel bent magniflow exhaust

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          • #6
            Wife came running downstairs yesterday morning, when she saw this...

            https://www.instagram.com/p/CD9OXw5D...d=l3u7quryb2bx

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            • #7
              All I'm going to say is "Please don't F this up ChryCo..." Bad enough seeing a fiat 500 running around with "Renegade" on it....

              Fleet Fox

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              • #8
                I'm going to be very interested to see how they differentiate this from a suburban/yukon/'sclade/whatever Ford makes. I think those will be it's direct competition (big American luxury suvs). If it's decent off-road they may swipe some land cruiser buyers. Land rover could also be considered a competitor but I see them as more of a status symbol.



                I remember seeing it in FCA's future product plan years ago and then got confirmation last February through work because we'll be producing a bunch of press hardened steel for it.
                Consistently not running is a form of reliability.

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                • #9
                  No one cares

                  Here we go again. The guy who said this was coming 9 years ago got old and died already - TWO YEARS AGO!

                  Nine(?) years of stringing everyone along for Commander/Aspen 2.0. It will be on used car lots for $3,500 three years after it comes out and in the junk/auction yard soon after that. FCA will produce it for 2-3 years or one generation, and then call it quits due to lack of interest. FCA will lose thousands on each one they sell, similar to Jaguar under Ford.

                  (half joking)
                  Rob
                  1974 Cherokee S, fuel injected 401, Trans-am Red, Aussie locker 'out back'
                  Click for video

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                  • #10
                    Fox News webpage teased the grill and quoted prices between $50K and $100K.
                    Lyle

                    Seemed like a good idea at the time...
                    69 1414x Wagoneer 350/TH400 DD & Ski Ride
                    68 Chevelle wagon 350/BWT50
                    68 Impala wagon 327/400
                    73 Cougar droptop 351C/FMX Garage Queen
                    04 Impala LS - Wife's DD
                    73 Wagoneer parts donor

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by lkmarsh
                      Fox News webpage teased the grill and quoted prices between $50K and $100K.
                      The more I see of it, the more optimistic I am, although I know I'll never be in the market to buy one!

                      I'm aware of a lot of negativity in other places about it but I'm excited. Jeep will never be able to make an exact modern version of the old one like everybody seems to want, but a modern equivalent something like the Lincoln Navigator would be great!
                      1991 Grand Wagoneer - Hunter Green. All stock. Rebuilt 360, .030" over with Melling MTA-1 cam.

                      1998 Cherokee (XJ) 4.0
                      1997 Grand Cherokee (ZJ) 4.0
                      1974 Ford F100 390

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PlasticBoob
                        Here we go again. The guy who said this was coming 9 years ago got old and died already - TWO YEARS AGO!

                        Nine(?) years of stringing everyone along for Commander/Aspen 2.0. It will be on used car lots for $3,500 three years after it comes out and in the junk/auction yard soon after that. FCA will produce it for 2-3 years or one generation, and then call it quits due to lack of interest. FCA will lose thousands on each one they sell, similar to Jaguar under Ford.

                        (half joking)
                        Pretty much what I've been thinking. Unless the new GW has its own body panels and unique look beyond the new GC, then I doubt there'll be much interest in it. It looks to be released about the time the economy falls into the biggest hole ever, so hardly anyone will have the ducats to buy one anyway.
                        --Rob--
                        1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
                        2008 BMW 535xi Wagon / Deep Sea Blue & Tan

                        My build thread:
                        https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
                        My Howell TBI Install How-To:
                        https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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                        • #13
                          It would most likely be cheaper to buy an old rusty GW and completely restore it with modern drive train. It will look better and be more off road capable. Not to mention, Fiat/chryco wont be able to screw it up!
                          For Sale Custom built reproduction Rhino Grilles http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...24#post1676924PM me for details or email rrielly@verizon.net

                          1982 Cherokee Chief 258 6 cyl, AX-15, NP208, mopar mpfi, hydroboost brakes.

                          1983 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 258 6cyl*SOLD*

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                          • #14
                            2021 Grand Wagoneer Reveal

                            So, what does everybody think of the new Grand Wagoneer?

                            Based on feedback on Facebook, it would seem most FSJ owners seem to hate it.
                            I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I love it. I think we all knew that a new Wagoneer couldn't be like the old one, and I think they've done a great job of building something that fits the exact same market position as the Grand Wagoneers did at the end of their years on sale, and serves the same purpose too of family hauling/towing/all weather driving/light off roading etc.

                            I have a feeling that I'll be in the minority within existing owners in saying that though!

                            Also, based on the non-flush rear window, I'm hoping (maybe optimistically) it might still have the ability to roll down!

                            What do you all think?

                            2021 Grand Wagoneer Front by Brynjaminjones, on Flickr

                            2021 Grand Wagoneer Rear by Brynjaminjones, on Flickr
                            Last edited by Brynjminjones; 09-03-2020, 12:36 PM.
                            1991 Grand Wagoneer - Hunter Green. All stock. Rebuilt 360, .030" over with Melling MTA-1 cam.

                            1998 Cherokee (XJ) 4.0
                            1997 Grand Cherokee (ZJ) 4.0
                            1974 Ford F100 390

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                            • #15
                              like Arthur Spooner ( jerry stiller ) said,.....

                              if I could go back in time , I would, but,....

                              unless you are extremely wealthy,..... that's impossible.

                              I would Love to go back to the 70's 80's like Arthur,....when our FSJs were new,
                              but we can't.

                              I have realized these new editions of our favorites only brings more people

                              to learn about the first FSJ jeeps and become fans of those too...

                              it is all good !!!!, glad I am here to see it,.....it is AWESOME

                              like an enlarged suburban version of the grand Cherokee

                              bet it rides great,......bet it is VERY SAFE.

                              hope they have an ad showing it towing an old GW or J10 like they did with the truck.

                              one of the guys that is an engineer at fiat Chrysler jeep is a member on here

                              he has old FSJs and New Jeeps.... I like to see them photographed together.

                              my guess on MSRP 85,000

                              EDIT: JUST SAW THE VIDEO AD it is nostalgic, showing the wagoneer thru the decades,....love the commercial.

                              dave in NC
                              Last edited by SOLSAKS; 09-03-2020, 02:51 PM.
                              SOLSAKS - dave
                              1976 J-10 HONCHO Fleetside
                              1982 J-10 Fleetside
                              1988 grand wagoneer
                              2004 RUBICON jeep
                              Benson, NC

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