84 Grand Wagoneer Revival

[rang-a-stang]

Here are some good threads to read on it:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=182007
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=187654
This guy kept his case, if I were doing this, I would run an XJ NP231. It is also a driver drop like your current case. I think this would be a cheaper more reliable swap but slightly more complicated.

[devildog80]

Not scared of computers, just do not want to get that modern with it.

I like these trucks as they were designed, and who knows, the 727 will probably perform perfectly. Then all of my running around & ranting will all be for naught, and will be happy with what I already have.

Maybe reading about what lots of others are doing has my head in the clouds, and I need to come back down to earth, and get focused with what I already have to get it going?

[sierrablue]

Not scared of computers, just do not want to get that modern with it.

I like these trucks as they were designed, and who knows, the 727 will probably perform perfectly. Then all of my running around & ranting will all be for naught, and will be happy with what I already have.

Maybe reading about what lots of others are doing has my head in the clouds, and I need to come back down to earth, and get focused with what I already have to get it going?

Nah, dreaming is good. And until you know EXACTLY what you want it to be, you'll want to gather all of the info you can about your various ideas--and then even if you don't go that route, then the info will be there for others who may want to go that route.

[78 WIDETRAC]

How is the project going?


I hope it cools down so you can get the Jeep going.

[devildog80]

Still dreaming about great adventures, but still sitting.

Weather forcast shows the end of this next week, temps are supposed to finally drop out of the 100's with humidity getting back down to livable desert levels less than 20%, so work will heat up as temps drop down.

I'm soooo ready to drop that new to me distributor in (thank you again), get some dead dinosaurs in the carb bowls, and turn the key to see what happens.

Will report when back on it, and thanks for the bump

[devildog80]

Hey followers.......WE HAVE SPARK....WOOOHOOOO

Still a bit warm out, but put on the shop clothes, grabbed the water & smokes, and headed into the heat!

Checked the existing distributor again for ground and 'pick-up" for function, and all tested out good, but would not get spark from the coil....UGH!

So, had another FSJ owner send me a known good distributor he had spare.

Put it in right where the other one was......no spark....GGGGRRRRR!

Bought one of those little spark checker light thingies you put between the plug and wire........no spark!

Took the tool over to my CJ5, to test and make sure the tester worked.

Yep, works good.

Back to the Waggy, placed the tester....and one of my CJ buddies Mongo228 was helping, and decided he would hold onto the tester...on the insulated part no less, and says "Turn it over"!

I hit the switch and the engine took flight for about 3 seconds and died.

WOOHOO....we have spark

Little did I know, but Mongo228 had spark too!

Apparently when he was holding the tester, that spark came rushing through, and grounded through his arm as it went by. WOWSERS!

I climbed out of the cab and up to the engine, and he is standing there waving his arm around.

Thought he was near as excited as I was we had spark, and thought he was doing some dance or something, and I was trying to figure out where I needed to catch the beat so we didn't look completely foolish dancing in the driveway!

No....not dancing, he was trying to shake off the shock he just received,,,,,,but dammit we had spark

So to wrap up the day after dancing....we have spark, then found the existing MC2100 was leaking gas.

We figured it might not do so well, but we started with what we had, and got a few more 3-5 second runs out of it before diving into the carb change.

Mongo228 had a brand new MC2150 he had purchased for his CJ7, and found the fuel line connection to the carb was leaking fuel, so he called it in and was sent another complete carb and told to keep the original one.

He did a JB weld fix on it, so we threw it on and fixing rubber lines etc as we went, to make sure everything was good behind and around while we were there.

Carb on, then battery was low....UGH!

Put the cables to it, and still just not cranking like it should have.

Outside temps were getting up there, we were just running sweat, truck not cooperating so we called it a day.

But hey, WE HAVE SPARK....WOOHOO

[cu4whln]

"Dancing" . . . LOL

Small step!

BUT - Foward steps !

[devildog80]

Shout out to 78Widetrac for the distributor he sent

Thank you so much, as it seems to have solved the no spark issue.

Now just need a bit more work with the carb situation and it should be running.

[78 WIDETRAC]

No problem. I'm glad it helped. Are you trying to stick to a stock 2bbl set up? Or are you going to swap to a 4 bbl ?

[devildog80]

Until I get it on the road to see how the stock 2bbl performs, I am thinking of the 4bbl setup as I have an OEM 4bbl intake that came with extra parts in back of the truck, and possible 4bbl Q-jet sourced as standby.

Thinking the 4bbl Q-jet would potentially get better mpg, but need to get it on the road first to even know what the 2bbl will do.

[78 WIDETRAC]

I think the AMC 4bbl spread bore manifold has a unique carb mating surface design. Double check for gaps if you put a non-jeep 4bbl carb on it. It seems like an adapter is required.

[devildog80]

I believe you are correct, same as the MC2100 needed an adapter for my CJ5 w/258, to fit correctly.

Thanks for the tip

[rang-a-stang]

(Pop confetti) SPARK!!! WOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!

[devildog80]

Yep, hoping to get back to it now for some fuel line fixin', so it can run on its own power......at least in the driveway

[rang-a-stang]

just FYI, when I did my 401 build I ran Nylon fuel line for my supply line. it was pretty easy to work with and easy to route. Plus it won't rust. Look into it! When I do my J4000, it will get all nylon lines, too.