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Old 11-16-2003, 12:27 PM
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Was this ever offered? I found a real nice body chassis , with everything else either gone or parted out to the point the only use I could see for it was to make a two wheel drive out of it. I took a photo of a wagoneer from the forum and choped it up to see what a lowered (slightly) wagoneer would look like and I think it looks rather nice. Has this ever been done . I would never consider altering my GW but this seems like an interesting project for a shell.

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Old 11-16-2003, 12:31 PM
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Not sure about the Wag's but there were Jtrucks offered as 2WD. I remember a really nice JTruck from way back (not telling my age), it eventually got converted to a 4WD.
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:34 PM
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There was 2wd wags back in the 60's. 62-66 i think it was offered.
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I dunno bout that... lowerd fsj? there is an orange one on this forum and I guess it's allright but dang, to me it is kind of a diss
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:39 PM
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There were 2WD Wags in the Kaiser era. I think the 2WD Wag was dropped the same year as the Panel in 69 but not real sure.
edit: the Kaiser era 2wd Wag J100's VIN started with 13 as compared to the 4wd J100's that started with 14.
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:43 PM
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I had one for a while, it was 4wd originally, but spent some time down near Mazatlan where something happened to the transfer case, so they put an AMC 2WD tranny with a splined tailhousing and a different drive shaft.

Drove and handled superbly except it had no 4-WD
In fact, it had a working trash lok in the back so it did great even in snow.
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Old 11-16-2003, 02:20 PM
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I love my wagoneer ( even more when it works) But I need something that I can get in and go across Canada in a few years . Two wheel drive would allow better handling and possibily better fuel economy. I am thinking that lack of front diff and transfer case as well as a few other bits and pieces would equal a decent weight savings( not to mention reduced rolling restance). Deoending on how I built it it could be reasonably fuel efficent.
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Old 11-16-2003, 02:23 PM
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I am not talking about stupid lowered , just enough to lower the center of gravity and get it down out of the wind a little. I am not a big fan of trucks whoes rockers drag the street.
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Hoo boy, you had us all sweating there. Kinda like swearing in church to talk of Wags being dropped to the weeds and pavement scrapers and Neon underbelly light packages and bling bling, eeyuch.
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But I need something that I can get in and go across Canada in a few years.
Yikes...ya might think about rebuilding the motor. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 11-16-2003, 04:09 PM
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There is no motor right now , just a shell.
And as far as bling what in the #*&% is that SH*#*
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I slightly altered the stance on my J-10 stepside which is strictly used as an occasional commuter and tow vehicle. Nowhere near slammed, just a very slight forward rake...about 1.5 inch drop at the front tire. Never liked the flat or upward slant of the hood line (depending on your spring condition). Basically "channeled" the body by first lowering the inner panel of the front valance assembly on the radiator supports about two inches. The front of fenders attach to that inner front panel. Then shaved the front cab mount donuts to align the cab and fenders, and finally shimmed the rear of the bed up just a tad to keep it aligned with the cab. Rhino grill, early valance and hood (with clean stamping for grill opening), sixteen inch aluminum wheels and 285/60 tires finish it off...looking for some BFG315-55s for the rear since they're virtually same diameter as 285's on front...but I think they're out of production. Finishing up fab on front and rear roll pans. Have a set of 3.5 inch turnouts from Speedway, but haven't decided where to mount them just yet...probably exiting just ahead of rear wheels. By the way, with an Edlebrock setup, the hood just barely clears the air filter assembly and radiator cap. Oddball but very capable alternative to the hoards of Effies, Chevies, and such. I know the offroad segment ain't gonna get it, but for the three of us street truck guys on the site, the slight drop in the front does wonders for "attitude".
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Old 11-17-2003, 09:58 AM
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Do you have any photos??
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Old 11-17-2003, 10:55 AM
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i'm a rockcrawling guy, but i love to see fsj's tricked out in any way...

shoot, half the wagoneers on the road are low riders by nature anyway... might as well touch it up a bit and make it look custom..

no shame in lowering a fsj, if you do it right.. my $.02..

and I too want to see pics of the custom front end work..
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I'll get some photos. Paint is rough at the moment, but it will give an idea of the general look...
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:39 AM
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I've been wanting to build the Wag depicted in this magazine drawings for some time now.

The only thing I would change is I feel that is a little bit to low for my tastes.
I'm not a rocker scraping kind a fellow.

For the IFS, I would use the parts from the front a Chevy 2WD truck.
Chevy's IFS just bolts to the frame, so I think it would easy to graft onto a FSJ Frame.

The other thing I would change would be the rag top.

Other than those two items, I love the looks of this rig!



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Old 11-18-2003, 08:06 AM
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That looks great, maybe not quite that low though. I would love it as a family hauler.
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Old 11-18-2003, 08:29 AM
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looks like it would be a great family hauler. I picked up a mopar had resto a 71 newport to haul the family around for one of their events. do any of you read Hot Rod Builder, Super Rod, Truck Builder. They have just anouced that they are going to come out with a four wheel mag
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Here is a picture of a custom Independant Front Suspension kit for a 1955-1959 Chevy Truck.



I am showing you this picture to illustrate what I was thinking about how I would install IFS to a FSJ.
Even though this pic is of custom kit using Mustang II style pieces and a Rack and Pinion stearing, it is very similar in configuration to the 1973-1987 Chevy Truck 2WD.

The major differences between this picture and the 73-87 is the 73-87 uses stamped steel control arms and does not use rack and pinion stearing.

BTW, out FSJ use a very similar power stearing gear box that Full Sized Chevy's use, so get the staering to work should be a snap!

I would use 1973-1987 2WD Chevy as a donor for the IFS. There are zillons of these in the junks yards.

There are just a few bolts that connect the front cross member to the frame a Chevy Truck.
I feel without much fab work that a person take this whole assembly and make it fit a FSJ Frame.
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there is a company in ariz. that is making something like that for 60s ford pu except they are using dakota parts their reasoning is that
1 the mustang set up is 20 years old
2 was designed for a car not a truck
I agree there are alot of those old cevy pu in the scrap yards keep us posted
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