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Old 04-07-2009, 12:45 PM
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nice street carb. Holley 4180.

put this together recently. put it on last night. it's a 4180 holley-the 600cfm carb ford used on the mustangs and trucks in the mid 80's. great little carbs,with annular primary boosters,and a few other nice revisions over a typical 4160 model. some,like this one have 4 corner idle,others are of course 2 corner. either is good. this one has the later model,excellent choke system,it works very well.

i made a few changes to this one. i put a late style main shaft in it,with the standard universal throttle arm for easy hook up. i drilled the needed dowel hole in the main body to fit a secondary metering block in place of the typical metering plate. it now has 2 power valves like the early 4150's did. not really necesary,i may put a p/v plug in the secondary side and re-jet accordingly.

i put plain side hung 1850 bowls on,ditching the ugly ford bowls. holley wouldn't sell me a truck avenger style vent tube for it. butt-heads.






here's a shot of the annular boosters. i'll take one of these carbs over a 1850 or current model 3310 any day.





i put it on last night,did a quick idle mix adjustment. filled up and did my 104 mile round to the shop and back today. gassed up again,took 7.8 gallons.13.3mpg. not bad for a carb i've not dialed in yet.keep in mind this the 391 stroker,bigger cam,big valves in the heads,9.25cr pistons. it doesn't feel lean on the highway with the jets i used either. might bump up the secondary side a little.

once the headers and dual exhaust is on i may go back to the 780 holley that i removed.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:52 PM
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:30 PM
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:38 PM
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Remember the avenger vent was copied off of what hot rodders were doing out in the field.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:58 PM
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Remember the avenger vent was copied off of what hot rodders were doing out in the field.

yep, we just use rubber fuel hose with holes/slits cut into it.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:33 PM
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That looks like the 4160 600 I just put on my truck.
hey Ristow do you know if the metering blocks are interchangable, i want to switch to a regular metering block with the standard idle screws so I have more adjustment possibilities.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:40 PM
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I was able to get a Truck Avenger vent tube out of the Holley folks. I told them I dropped my Truck avenger and damaged the vent. He did say that the tube was no a seperate part but he did send one to me.

I installed it on the Street Avenger that I got from Greg Taylor
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:15 PM
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I appreciate you getting my rig all tuned up and all.
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:25 PM
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We used rubber hose with a T in the middle
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:38 PM
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I put a 302 in my 85 ford ranger a few years ago and took one of those carbs off. its somewhere in the garage in a box.

Didn;'t know they were good for jeeps too..
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:18 AM
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hey Ristow do you know if the metering blocks are interchangable,

you're talking for the secondary side i s'pose? any 4150 secondary block will fit,but the calibration will be wrong if it's off a considerably bigger carb.


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i s'pose,but...sigh,call me a boy scout and laugh if you like....i don't wanna have to lie to get one....

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i thought you would. i'm gonna need it a while longer though,sorry for the inconvenience....

hmm..it appears i forgot about those rims again too don't it...
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:41 AM
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:48 AM
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Would it be too much trouble for you to get it waxed for me also? A mint in the ashtray is a nice touch as well. Thanks!
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:35 PM
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no I meant if I could change the primary metering block from the emissions block with the backwards screws to a regular block.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:25 PM
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Ristow: not a lie. I do have a truck avenger and I did drop it. That's where I got the idea. I was able to fix the bent one after the replacement arrived.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:46 PM
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:52 PM
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Nice setup ristow, what did you use to hook up your throttle and kickdown?

I have a 4160 I'm gonna put on my amc 360 this summer, trying to get parts together
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:04 PM
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If I can't get mine working properly I'm shipping it to cheese country so YOU can do it.

send it over.

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no I meant if I could change the primary metering block from the emissions block with the backwards screws to a regular block.

i've never had the pleasure of messing with one. i'll see what the books say if anything.

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Ristow: not a lie. I do have a truck avenger and I did drop it. That's where I got the idea. I was able to fix the bent one after the replacement arrived.

i was referring to myself. it would have been a lie from me,i don't have a truck avenger. no offense was intended.

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Nice setup ristow, what did you use to hook up your throttle and kickdown

just a ball stud for throttle and a bolt for the cruise clevis. i put the universal throttle arm on,so it hooks up easy. i use the chrysler style relocation bracket sometimes if the cable reach is a bit short.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:05 PM
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:10 PM
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i've never had the pleasure of messing with one. i'll see what the books say if anything.
ok cool i would just like to have more adjustment. the backwards metering blocks only have alittle adjustability.
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