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Old 01-25-2008, 09:42 PM
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I'll put out an apb on this for you, try to get some pics or schematics for you. My '67 parts list shows the air pump set up but not the AC or PS.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:03 PM
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Might want to scrap that AC in favor of room to install a turbo/nitrous though...

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Old 01-26-2008, 08:12 AM
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Looking at this three groove crank pulley belt arrangement it would appear that 1) there is a spacer added to the PS mounting, which may or may not have anything to do with adjustment for pulley groove selection, and 2) the innermost groove is unused so possibly that is where the AC or air pump (or combination of AC/air pump) would run off of:

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Old 01-26-2008, 08:44 PM
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BIG thanks everyone. Been chainsawin & winchin all day- Ice in these giant pine trees I live with. Although every muscle aches, even my eyes, and haven't studied real good, its mystery pieces to the loaded out 327 puzzle.
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Old 01-26-2008, 08:49 PM
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I was thinking I know of one... I'll post some pics when I get them loaded and see if they help...
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:00 PM
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:03 PM
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Those pics are from a '67 Gladiator. The PS and AC/idler are all on the same belt with the alternator/water pump taking a second pulley groove. The third groove musta been for the air pump. Got it now?
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:23 PM
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Nice find Elliot!
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:26 PM
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He might just have to space his idler out to line up with the front crank groove, may have been like that and the guys that sent him the parts left the spacer out...
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:35 PM
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Is it just me or is that a flip-down license plate bracket on the back?
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:46 AM
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2 designs

Check out the pics on the ebay clean waggy and then Elliott's 67.

Man that just complicated this more cause I like the ebay one that uses seperate belts to run PS and AC.

At least I know what to find.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:55 AM
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AMC 327 with 3 belt setup

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ler/aa12_3.jpg


This picture shows each engine accessory having different belts.
The idler arm looks "cast style" versus the bent "flat bar style" type.

So the "cast style" idler arm is needed to run seperate belts.

Last piece of puzzle is which power steering bracket is needed.
I think I have both styles.

how do I rename this thread? Needs to be in tech archive section of AMC 327.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:00 AM
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other side of "cast style" seperate belts

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ler/a3fa_3.jpg

This pic shows the other side of engine using 3 seperate belts to drive PS,AC, Alt.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:16 AM
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Flat bar style idler arm

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...r/MVC-013S.jpg
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:50 AM
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Is it just me or is that a flip-down license plate bracket on the back?

Flip UP. The 73 and older Wags had this neat design which netted you NOTHING.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:51 AM
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how do I rename this thread? Needs to be in tech archive section of AMC 327.

You have to go to "advanced" while editing to change the Title line.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:37 PM
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So... whatch'a need Dennis, a different idler set up?
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:40 PM
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You have to go to "advanced" while editing to change the Title line.

and then get someone to suggest it being archived in the sticky for future archives

(and sacrificing a goat wouldn't hurt).

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Old 04-14-2009, 12:37 PM
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AMC 327 seperate engine belts

Whooo...who...

Some may remember my thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=81073

well finally found the right parts to have seperate belts for A/C, PS Pump and Alt.

Pulley Diagram and can see the pulley that bolts to harmonic balancer giving the extra belt.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...r/DSC02238.jpg

All this time I was looking for a 3 groove harmonic balancer.
This came in the NOS add on Kaiser A/C kit, I just got in.


Also learned that Super Wagoneer with factory installed A/C uses one belt to drive York A/C compressor and the Eaton PS Pump.

Early production dealer installed add on kit's used seperate belts.


Anyway need to attach this post to the archieve link posted above.

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