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Old 08-13-2019, 05:21 PM
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Headiner panels

Anyone know if anyone is making these ? I have an 85 model and men is warped and sagging pretty bad.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:17 PM
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BJ's off road has a complete kit for $490.00
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:05 AM
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Any good used ones out there?
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:27 PM
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BJ's off road has a complete kit for $490.00


Thanks for posting this. I just got my door panels from them but didn't think to look for the headliner panels. Mine are pretty saggy also. I'll checkem out.
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Old 10-21-2019, 10:57 PM
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Holy Crap! $490 for just the panels? I would hope they'd be upholstered for that much cash. I'll continue to live with my warped board in the very back...
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Old 10-23-2019, 12:03 PM
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Are these cardboard or cloth? I repaired my J20 headliner by gluing the broken pieces to foam board on the backside. Used 3M 77 cement: https://www.amazon.com/3M-Multipurpose-Permanent-Adhesive-Cardboard/dp/B0000AZ735/ref=sr_1_5
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Old 10-23-2019, 03:11 PM
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headliner

What kind of foam board? My headliner is still in good shape,.but with the extended cab complete now, I have to stretch it 13". Link to the board would be appreciated......
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:09 PM
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I'm sure the BJ headliner is a well built product. Nevertheless its spendy.
Ive been trying to figure out a descent DIY. From what I've seen nothing jumps out
but I'm sure someone has done some nice work.

Funny when I first got my FSJ my headliner/board was in ok shape. I tossed it figuring I could probably get one for cheap. Wrong...
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Old 10-24-2019, 11:22 AM
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Holy Crap! $490 for just the panels? I would hope they'd be upholstered for that much cash. I'll continue to live with my warped board in the very back...

Yeah for like what? Maybe $10 worth of materials? What a price gouge!
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:38 PM
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What kind of foam board? My headliner is still in good shape,.but with the extended cab complete now, I have to stretch it 13". Link to the board would be appreciated......
Maybe 30"x24" foam board? Go to the craft store and ask for it. Expect they have it at Staples and Office Depot too. It's used a lot for poster board and making models and such. Two pieces of glossy paper with expanded foam between, a little less than 1/4" thick. Light, rigid, inexpensive.

Look here - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=foam+board - price online is ridiculous but this is what I used.
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:28 PM
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Here's a link to one that ghcoe made himself out of some coroplast sheets and such. It looks good and didn't seem too complicated.
https://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/vie...p=45232#p45232
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Old 10-25-2019, 05:30 AM
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I don't see the link. I'm all for DIY the headliner. $500 goes along way replacing other bits on my jeep.
Thanks
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:07 AM
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I don't see the link. I'm all for DIY the headliner. $500 goes along way replacing other bits on my jeep.
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Sorry, I updated it above with link...
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Old 10-25-2019, 04:39 PM
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Yeah for like what? Maybe $10 worth of materials? What a price gouge!

I can tell you it was a lot more than 10 bucks in materials. All the different things I have started to make for the restoration I am now done with have climbed in material costs alone. Not to mention time to build, tools to do it well, etc. The ribbed aluminum tailgate panels I make have over doubled in costs. To the point that I am afraid the prices I would have to charge will result in a lot of responses exactly as yours shag. I totally get it. It is the tariff's that are being imposed. They hurt us not some other country. The very best thing anyone can do is figure out how to make things like that headiner and do it for cheaper. And have the pride that you made it and did not pay that asking price for it. I get the reponse. But it was a lot more than 10 bucks in materials not including fabrication time.
I would have a pretty hard time sewing up a wagoneer early vinyl headliner and selling it that cheap. I don't know what BJ's mark up is, but the costs to make this stuff is soon going to pass up what people will pay for it. If it hasn't already. No Porsche's here...
Get creative. Figure out how to make these things....Then share how you did it. I did.

When I get caught up some here, I will put J truck headliner boards on my list to look at for making. I have two J trucks here and I seriously doubt they would ever be that much. I hope BJ's has free shipping... LOL
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Old 10-28-2019, 10:31 AM
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Dirftwood did a pretty cool job on his:
See this thread
I know a guy that installed the BJs kit in his WT Cherokee and it did not fit well. As far as I know he is in contact with BJs to discuss options. The 2 door Cherokee headliners are not the same size as Wagos and 4 door Cherokees. The BJs kit is a board with headliner material on it. It may be expensive but you are not going to find a shop to do it for that price or better.
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:33 AM
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Dirftwood did a pretty cool job on his:
See this thread
I know a guy that installed the BJs kit in his WT Cherokee and it did not fit well. As far as I know he is in contact with BJs to discuss options. The 2 door Cherokee headliners are not the same size as Wagos and 4 door Cherokees. The BJs kit is a board with headliner material on it. It may be expensive but you are not going to find a shop to do it for that price or better.




And it is free shipping. That alone could be $$.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:36 PM
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I made mine out of plastic sign board (the corrugated stuff) and speaker box fabric. I cut slits on the backside for the bends along the sides and front and used 3M spray adhesive to bond the fabric. Used the original bolts but used some slightly larger flat washers instead of the factory ones - probabaly didn't even need to do that. I made some small pieces of sheet metal and rounded/formed them to use as sortof a large "washer" for the front corners. I also wrapped the roof supports with the same fabric and everything went up pretty good. It's not as good as stock, and probably doesn't offer the same level of noise dampening, but it looks a lot better than what was there - and it was pretty cheap.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:38 PM
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Oh, it's been up for over 10 years and still looks good. The plastic has sagged a tiny bit in the very front section since that's the largest area without any support, but the fabric is still stuck on good.
Tin snips cuts that stuff like butter too, BTW!
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To help support the head liner and reinforce folds where you cut the backside, I had an idea... On soft vinyl headliners, the material that the sleeves are made out of where the metal bows go through is called "bow drill". Bow drill is the strongest material I have ever tried to tear. I couldn't at all, no matter how hard I tried.
To help strengthen the cut folds, bow drill could be cut into strips and once the headliner was in the shape it need to be, the bow drill could be glued in on the back like fiberglass work. Using a glue that worked with what ever board was chosen. I know some of you guys use plastic, so you would need to make sure the contact adhesive did not attack it. That would give the fold some strength back. A thin plastic strip folded and glued on the back would also make it stout.
Then for the overall roof support, a piece of aluminum or steel that spanned the roof could be glued on the top side of the board with bow drill layed on top of the metal with glue to secure it. I would think 3/8 round would have some strength. Or 1/4 square. Fast tack 92 is a sprayable high temp capable headliner contact adhesive. Invert the can and clear the spray nozzle in a garbage can when you are done. Or you will never spray through that nozzle again. Bow drill can be bought by the yard online or at your almost local ulpholstery shop.
Just a thought on how to keep the sags away..
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Some really good ideas there! Thanks
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