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Old 08-02-2020, 02:40 PM
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Well I would say the man hours are clearly worth!

Also the engine bay looks pretty darn tidy from this angle!

Really coming together, inspiring me to get back on it!
Thank you, Taylor! Your house work inspires me to leave CA!
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That's funny!!!
It is! AND it jinxed me. More on that in #3 below.
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I have been traveling a lot and the son been driving it a lot so tasks have been lining up.

1) First on the docket, the tailgate window came out of the cross bar. That means it is a PITA to open/close the tailgate and I can hear the cross bar banging inside the tailgate when driving. I also saw a Dirt Everyday Extra where Fred Williams put his Wagoneer tailgate window down, then up, and I was in awe at how fast his window moved. Time for a motor rebuild. I gathered the spacers, lithium grease, and lift bar end knubs like Driftwood did in his awesome how-to:
Driftwood's Tailgate electrical/mechanical repair thread
It went exactly like his so I am only going to post my carnage pics. When I opened the gear box, it looked like someone went in and lubed it with some moly recently (not me).

Then I opened it up further and found this dumpster fire!

HAHAHAHA!!! Cleaned it all up with some alcohol and break-clean, lubed it up with lithium, and put it all back together. I also hit my electrical contacts with some emery cloth.

Moved on to the knubs at the end of the lift arms. Again, did it just like Driftwood. Here are mine:

I threw the lift mechanism back in the tailgate.
I also ordered some window adhesive since the brand new rubber gasket thing in the lift channel did not hold my glass in the lift channel. I ordered this stuff:
Amazon Beta Seal Glass Adhesive
That stuff is GNARLY. Using an old school hand caulking gun to push it into the channel SUCKED because it is so thick and you really have to squeeze hard. I let the window dry overnight and hope to install it today.

2) Next, installing lift springs I bought on Craigslist a few months ago. They are Rancho 44044 and are supposed to be 2.5" springs. First thing I did was pressure wash them and hit them with a quick wire wheel.Then I sprayed them with some high gloss black.

I let them dry for a few months (really was waiting on back ordered U-Bolts) then lubed them up. I did this by driving a chisel between the leafs, pulling out the anti-squeak pad, coating it in grease and sticking it back in.



Yes, I greased both sides. Threw them under my truck without much drama.
Before

After

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After

They netted me about 3.75" of lift. I am hoping the will setting a good inch over the next couple months. I need to have my front driveshaft lengthened now, too. My front shocks also now interfere with the shock tower. I will probably cut the shroud off the shock and put a rubber boot on instead. Pictures in the next post.

3) Next up: Son got pulled over for driving with passengers (in CA you can;t have passengers for the first year you drive when under the age of 18) and he was on a dirt road he should not have been. Luckily my registration was expired (face palm). Since I have had so much travel and COVID craziness, I have not smogged it yet. So that starts now. I paid the registration in April but it is not complete until I smog it. I am 2 weeks late. I am hoping if I walk in to court with the receipt showing I paid it and a successful smog check, he will write the registration ticket off.

To get through smog=exhaust manifolds back on, Duraspark back on, hide the 401 badge on the grill (my truck is supposed to have a 360), open element air cleaner instead of the dual snorkel, and stock 2.5" Y-pipe. That's alot more work than it sounds like. it's also going to cost me $75 cuz I had to buy an open element air cleaner and will need to order another set of Remflex header gaskets. This is will be the last time I need to smog it becuae next time, I will be living in Idaho!
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Old 08-02-2020, 03:49 PM
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My front shocks also now interfere with the shock tower. I will probably cut the shroud off the shock and put a rubber boot on instead.




After the shackle reversal, I ended up clocking my shock mounts with the top going rearward to accommodate. That meant using the centered lower hole which is on a bend. Not optimal but eh, it's a shock, not a coil over. It'll be fine. And it is. Lol. Try doing that before tearing your shock apart.
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What did you use to replace the bushing crumbs in the tailgate motor? That's what mine looked like.
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:21 AM
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After the shackle reversal, I ended up clocking my shock mounts with the top going rearward to accommodate. That meant using the centered lower hole which is on a bend. Not optimal but eh, it's a shock, not a coil over. It'll be fine. And it is. Lol. Try doing that before tearing your shock apart.
Ah! That makes perfect sense (after our text exchange, LOL)! I will try it and post pics. Working on smog stuff right now, though.
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What did you use to replace the bushing crumbs in the tailgate motor? That's what mine looked like.
I used 3 nylon spacers and filled it up with white lithium grease. If you go to the link where Driftwood did his, he does a great job showing how its done. I have one nylon spacer left (if you want it, PM me, I put up a link for it: free spacer link)
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:34 AM
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sorry...
forgot to warn ya about urethane joys.
gotta eat your wheaties to apply it and MESSY don't even come close to describing the stuff.
ah good times don't miss having to do windshields!!
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:52 PM
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Then I opened it up further and found this dumpster fire!

HAHAHAHA!!!

Glad you got the tailgate motor rebuild done!
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:02 PM
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2) Next, installing lift springs I bought on Craigslist a few months ago. They are Rancho 44044 and are supposed to be 2.5" springs.

The difference is amazing!

It looks like a Gasser now!

Did you replace just the front springs?

Is a dropped pitman arm required? I got one somewhere in the garage.
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I turned down some urethane bushings on the lathe to fit. You didn't mention what you did (or I missed it) so that was my tactful way of saying "you didn't put it back together without something in there did you?"
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:06 PM
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CHP has to regain lost revenue for those few months CA roads were virtually empty.
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:09 PM
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sorry...
forgot to warn ya about urethane joys.
gotta eat your wheaties to apply it and MESSY don't even come close to describing the stuff.
ah good times don't miss having to do windshields!!
Good description. Pretty much spot on in every regard. Do you know if the whole tube is going to harden now that it is opened? It kind of feels like it did...
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Glad you got the tailgate motor rebuild done!
Wouldn't have even tried it if it weren't for your How-To thread and fantastic pics!
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The difference is amazing!
It looks like a Gasser now!
Did you replace just the front springs?
Is a dropped pitman arm required? I got one somewhere in the garage.
Hahaha! It does look kinda gasser'esque! I hope that changes. A slight nose up attitude is OK, but this is pretty extreme.
I had replaced my brakes lines when I swapped chassis's with longer ones so I was good there. I have not replaced my Pitman arm. I need to look into that. I will also need to lengthen my front driveshaft. I already am in contact with Bud (J20 Project), who built my current shaft, for some options. Other than that, all I did was replace springs and U-Bolts.
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I turned down some urethane bushings on the lathe to fit. You didn't mention what you did (or I missed it) so that was my tactful way of saying "you didn't put it back together without something in there did you?"
I bought these springs used and they had the original Rancho red urethane bushings already installed. They just bolted into my rig. I hope I didn't miss anything...
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CHP has to regain lost revenue for those few months CA roads were virtually empty.
Hahaha! Painfully true!
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Been putting on my Smog legal clothes lately. Nothing exciting; I wasn't even going to post on it but then I changed my mind.
I forgot how ginormous, heavy, and ugly these manifolds are, and how obnoxious the air injection manifolds are. I don't need the air injection so I am just going to cap the check valves and call it done. Then, after smog, I am giving my manifolds to another member who needs them.

I also forgot how bad it sucks trying to hook up #6 and #8's spark plug wires around the heater box with the air injection tubes on. GGrrrrr..... My hand is still sore. Notice how dirty my engine is these days. That's because it's being used/driven. I actually like it.

Installed a freshly painted distributor with a freshly painted vacuum can that I got from Johnsonic (CA smog laws say you can't have computer controlled ignition; you have to have the original vacuum control/mechanical and Duraspark). The thing that sucks about this is I usually like to have the #1 post pointed at #1 cylinder and normally I can do that since there is no vacuum can on my normal dizzy. With this vacuum can installed, I have to rotate the dizzy about 120 degrees to clear the power steering pump bracket which makes all my ignition wire routing messed up. Some wires are super taught and some are loose. Annoying. You can also see the stupid open element air filter I have to have.


Lastly, I am installing my factory tiny Y-pipe. I had to weld on the Oxygen sensor bung. I am a TERRIBLE welder so when I got done and cleaned all the slag off the weld, I was super proud of myself becuase there were no holes in my weld! WOOO HOOO!!! then I picked it up to install it and noticed this:

For those that folks as smart as me, what you see here is my flange is downstream of my bung.
So I got to cut the pipe downstream of the bung, remove the flange, weld the pipe back together. Then, cut the pipe upstream of the bung, install the flange, and weld it back together. Killed a solid 45 minutes but I got lots more practice welding so that's good. The whole exhuast is back on and done.

Today I have to fab a mount for my "Duraspark" that I got from Babywag, and remount my coil. I also need to route the vacuum lines for the EGR and try to find the EGR CTO in my parts stash, a place to install the EGR CTO, and then go run a smog BIN. I hope to try my initial smog check on Friday.
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Man you guys and your California smog BS! I'd never live in a state that sucks like that!



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I have so been there on the bung SNAFU.. so laser focused on not screwing up the main task you get the tunnel vision. Having said that, as i get older analysis paralysis has become a bigger problem in some ways.

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Old 08-07-2020, 07:58 AM
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I spend a lot of time on the West Coast for work and the environment is beautiful. Weather is great and you have almost every climate! The politics, taxes and regulation ruin it. Dont tell me that I cant have a straw-Damit!!
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Old 08-07-2020, 08:11 AM
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Man you guys and your California smog BS! I'd never live in a state that sucks like that!

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Ha! Ain't that the truth, Fred. We have great weather here, though. Good for cruising vintage Mopars and Hemi powered FSJs. But not so much for Smogging.
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I have so been there on the bung SNAFU.. so laser focused on not screwing up the main task you get the tunnel vision. Having said that, as i get older analysis paralysis has become a bigger problem in some ways.

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Truth right there. Wife says I am "Hyper focused". She says that is why she won't come hang out with me because I am "so hyper focused we can't even have a conversation." Poor me.
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I spend a lot of time on the West Coast for work and the environment is beautiful. Weather is great and you have almost every climate! The politics, taxes and regulation ruin it. Don't tell me that I cant have a straw-Damit!!
Truth. Deep seeded Truth. Less than 2 years until I can have a straw at a restaurant, buy ammo without a backgroud check, and leave my headers on!
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I have said many times, I am a terrible welder. I am also not a very good fabricator. It took me 5 hours to build this stupid bracket. However, when WW3 hits and my house gets nuked, this bracket will be the last thing left of my truck.


Look at the mess I made of my desk during that 5 hours. (face palm)

The bracket cost me basically nothing to make. I used scraps I had saved over time. It's stout! Here it is installed with module under the Duraspark cover:

And finally here it is all put together. This is what my engine will look like for the smog tech. I have not hooked up EGR vacuum signal yet but its all there. I want to drive it with the stock exhaust to make sure the tune is OK before I hook up the EGR.


This is kinda funny too. I added a drain plug to my trans pan last time I tried to seal it up. Since I am going to try to seal it up AGAIN, I drained the pan. Look how tiny this plug is!!

It took a good 30 minutes to drain! hahaha! I got what I paid for!
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Old 08-10-2020, 07:38 AM
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Awesome stuff Rang! Well maybe not since its all smog stuff

Anywho, I sympathize with the wife in the garage. I love having her there and she enjoys being out there too. But i do seem to get less done on the account of talking too much
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Awesome stuff Rang! Well maybe not since its all smog stuff

Anywho, I sympathize with the wife in the garage. I love having her there and she enjoys being out there too. But i do seem to get less done on the account of talking too much
Small price to pay! Keeping the wife happy is a direct cost to keeping the rig progressing. Wife is mad=rig goes stagnant. (at least that is how it is in my house)
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Drove my truck yesterday on smog equipment. It seems to run/idle better with this crap on it. I have exhaust leaks and they need a fixin.
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After the shackle reversal, I ended up clocking my shock mounts with the top going rearward to accommodate. That meant using the centered lower hole which is on a bend. Not optimal but eh, it's a shock, not a coil over. It'll be fine. And it is. Lol. Try doing that before tearing your shock apart.
I felt like I should have thought of that sooner.
I removed the lower/middle bolt, loosened the rearward bolt and removed the forward bolt from the hole by the yellow arrow. Rotated the shock tower to the second forward bolt hole (green arrow) and put it back together. PERECT! Almost like AMC expected people to do this. I am not running the bottom bolt anymore but, as a wise man once said, "Not optimal but eh, it's a shock, not a coil over. It'll be fine. And it is."

The passenger side shock shroud had been damage from this whole axle movement fiasco:

I cut that portion off, re-positioned the shock mount, and now all seems well on the front suspension front. I am going to order 2 new front shocks though; Because they are cheap. Front springs have settle about 1/3" so far. They only have about a mile on them and I have not torqued my bushings yet, hoping they will still come down a little. If they do not come down any more, I am going to add one leaf to the rear. If that does not level it out, I will remove one leaf from the front. ALLL this AFTER a successful smog check. Whenever that is.

Re-sealed my trans pan. I spent a good 45 minutes with a body hammer, 2 sheets of glass, a wrench, and a .010 feeler gauge. I got it so there was no part of the pan flange where a .010 feeler gauge could fit between the flange and glass. When I re-installed the pan I noticed my kick down connector had fresh ATF on it so I decided to replace it's O-ring, too. Look how flat this (what I think is original) O-Ring is! I am not sure if it was leaking before but it is NOT leaking now! Woo Hooo!


I am hoping to smog this week. That means I have to run a BIN or two between now and then, and fix a gnarly exhaust leak. Good times.
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At work I use a BLUF often times when I am presenting to important people. BLUF=Bottom Line Up Front. In last week's episode:
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...I am hoping to smog this week. That means I have to run a BIN or two between now and then, and fix a gnarly exhaust leak. Good times.

BLUF:


Background:
Drove it to and from work Thursday in a completely CA smog legal configuration. Other than being relatively gutless, it ran great! EXTRA Bonus: NO Trans leaks!!! AT ALL!!! So plan is to drive it to the smog shop Friday after work.
Issue:
Friday it ran great to work. It also ran great to the smog shop. I pull into the parking lot all jazzed because I am feeling pretty good about passing CA Smog first time and, literally, as I am pulling up to the bay where the smog dyno is, a huge plume of white smog bellows out from the front. I turn left to avoid the smog bay, coast to the back, smoking like Cheech and Chong are hot boxing my engine bay, then it dies. I pop the hood.... FIRE!
I stamp it out with my ball cap and begin my sulking.
It looks like when I installed my exhaust manifold, the power steering hose rested against the air injection bolt and I did not notice it. So for the about 75 miles I drove it, I was cooking my power steering hose (pressure side). It burst as I pulled into the parking lot and sprayed fluid all over the driver side of the engine and manifold (hence white smoke). I called a tow, called the wife to tell her I will not be home in time, and muttered many words I care not to type here. Notice the trail of fluid I left.


On inspection, I see virtually no serious damage. The hose is, obviously, toast but my Taylor silicone wires look OK, although the cute little cable labels are baked (I'll get pictures next post). All the other wiring seems OK but one area of conduit looks a little melted and the fire was pretty active near my knock sensor (I have not checked my knock sensor wiring yet). I noticed the paper air filter is browned on the driver side and I had a paper towel by the battery on the passenger side that I use to check trans fluid level and it had some charring. The bag that was holding my Cruise Control wiring looks like this:


I feel like the FSJ Gods were really mad that I have fixed all my known fluid leaks so to get even with me, they popped the hose to make sure I don't get cocky.

So that is a long story to say: I did not smog yet and I need a new power steering hose ($20 and it's at home waiting for me). It's not very often someone can say "My rig caught fire and I am SOOOOOooooo lucky!" I do keep an extinguisher in my rig but if this would have happened 30 seconds sooner, my truck would have burned to the ground (extinguisher or not) because I was doing 70 MPH just before this happened and by the time I would have been able to pull over, the engine bay would have been torched. Scary stuff. Glad it ended the way it did though.

Oh, and my front springs have settled about 3/4" so far. So now the front is about an inch taller than the back. It looks kinda cool. I hope it will continue to settle a little more, though. I gotta send my front driveshaft off to get lengthened.
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Pretty cool it happened in the parking lot and not on the hwy. Could of been a much worse story.
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Holy Cow!!

Man I am so glad it didnt burn your rig to the ground! And that you are okay.
Super lucky.

Even better it didnt do any significant damage.
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Rang-a-stang project.

In the immortal words of Maxwell Smart "I was that close". Glad you and your rig are OK.
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