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Old 09-01-2018, 08:16 AM
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1997 AW4 transmission to AMC 360

hi, I am putting a AW4 transmission out of a 1997 XJ Cherokee behind my freshly built AMC 360 ,and I need to find the wiring diagram for the TCU for that year, they are all diferant color codes for diferant years
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Old 09-01-2018, 02:02 PM
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You may want to try an XJ forum, like NAXJA.com
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Old 09-11-2018, 04:31 AM
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still waiting for response
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Old 09-11-2018, 09:37 AM
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1997 XJ shop manual is not very expensive on CDROM. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Jeep-Cherokee-Shop-Service-Repair-Manual-DVD-Engine-Drivetrain-Electrical/362174633733?epid=1411166879&hash=item54534a5705:g :eIQAAOSwG0taoCSo

RockAuto probably has them too.

Might be better than waiting for someone to reply.
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Old 09-11-2018, 02:52 PM
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AX-15 would be a better trans. for your 360. They are stronger than the aw4's as they were used in all xj's with the straight six. AW4's were only used in the 4 cyl. xj's and wranglers.
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Old 09-11-2018, 03:37 PM
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AX-15 would be a better trans. for your 360. They are stronger than the aw4's as they were used in all xj's with the straight six. AW4's were only used in the 4 cyl. xj's and wranglers.




AW4's were used behind most 4.0s in XJs and have a great reputation in those applications.
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Old 09-11-2018, 04:29 PM
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AW4's were used behind most 4.0s in XJs and have a great reputation in those applications.
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I've had 2 XJ's 4.0 w/AW4, still have one(96). Excellent AT.
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Old 09-11-2018, 04:40 PM
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AX-15 would be a better trans. for your 360. They are stronger than the aw4's as they were used in all xj's with the straight six. AW4's were only used in the 4 cyl. xj's and wranglers.

You're probably thinking about the AX-5 5 speed used behind the 2.5L, which is a much weaker trans than the AX-15.

The AX-15, and later NV3550, are both great transmissions, if you want a 5 speed.

Honestly, though, neither of those manuals likely come anywhere near what the AW4 can handle. The AW4 is based on the same trans that was in the twin-turbo'd Supra. I've seen a lot of people pushing huge horsepower numbers with built-up stock autos. Regardless of what type of abuse you want to call that, no AX-15 would ever survive.


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Old 09-12-2018, 03:30 AM
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My bad, that is what I was thinking. 🙄
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Old 09-12-2018, 06:32 AM
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thanks eveybody for response , have made me feel more confident on using this tranny behind my 360 . i looked up the ebay site for the cd manual ,and ebay want $25 Australian to post from USA , it will cost $75 Aust to buy it, can not understand ebays charges , rip off
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:03 AM
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Pretty sure the eBay seller determines the shipping charges, not eBay itself.

RockAuto has it for less. Put it in your cart and see what the shipping will be.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...180370&jsn=366

How many XJs were sold in Australia? I expect quite a few. Someone local to you may have it for sale. Search or ask at your local parts store. "Bishko."
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Old 09-12-2018, 06:14 PM
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I have put an 93 Aw4/231 behind a 360 a couple years ago. It’s not as hard as you’d think. If you need some help let me know.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:43 AM
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I have put an 93 Aw4/231 behind a 360 a couple years ago. It’s not as hard as you’d think. If you need some help let me know.
thanks I need to know the wiring color and number code for the 1997Aw4
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:36 AM
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I have put an 93 Aw4/231 behind a 360 a couple years ago. It’s not as hard as you’d think. If you need some help let me know.

How do you like it?
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:43 AM
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I like the transmission. I did a post on here about it. It was fine with the 3.31s but 3.73 gears would be optimal. Cruises beautifully. No adapters needed.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:15 AM
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I like the transmission. I did a post on here about it. It was fine with the 3.31s but 3.73 gears would be optimal. Cruises beautifully. No adapters needed.
I remember your post and have tried to find it , it would be good to read it again if I could find it
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:06 AM
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Do a google search for “AW4 swap complete” under IFSJA.
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:51 AM
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80limited brings up a good point about axle gearing. Don't know what rig you're considering swapping the AW4 into or your goals doing so. If you're running stock 2.73 or 3.31's the trans will still work but if you're expecting any benefit from 4th gear(OD) you won't see it except maybe(?) on absolutely flat ground. Any hills/grades it'll shift back down into 3rd to maintain speed and power. I wouldn't consider an OD trans with anything higher than 3.54 gears. Even my XJ's with stock 3.54's hunt a on even slight short up hill stretches. You can live with it but if your shooting for better mpgs from an OD trans 4th gear...don't expect it with too high of axle gearing.
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:10 PM
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80limited brings up a good point about axle gearing. Don't know what rig you're considering swapping the AW4 into or your goals doing so. If you're running stock 2.73 or 3.31's the trans will still work but if you're expecting any benefit from 4th gear(OD) you won't see it except maybe(?) on absolutely flat ground. Any hills/grades it'll shift back down into 3rd to maintain speed and power. I wouldn't consider an OD trans with anything higher than 3.54 gears. Even my XJ's with stock 3.54's hunt a on even slight short up hill stretches. You can live with it but if your shooting for better mpgs from an OD trans 4th gear...don't expect it with too high of axle gearing.




Joe,
What RPMs do your XJs turn at 65MPH? Mine has 30in tires and with the AW4 and 3.55 gears, it should turn about 1950RPM, yet it's at 1500. I wonder if my tach is off...
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:16 PM
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Joe,
What RPMs do your XJs turn at 65MPH? Mine has 30in tires and with the AW4 and 3.55 gears, it should turn about 1950RPM, yet it's at 1500. I wonder if my tach is off...
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Gee Mikel I dunno. It's prolly been a year since I went that fast. I'm a good 2-3 hrs from the nearest interstate but I gotta make run to Colville in E.WA in a few days so I'll try to remember to make a note and let ya know when I get back.
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