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Old 09-23-2019, 08:36 AM
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i use an old lifter i opened up and put a washer in under the plunger basically making it a solid lifter,and it is my check lifter. do the same,and leave the valve springs alone.


those claw style spring compressors are hell on the springs too.


furthermore you dont want the valve opening when checking pushrod length,so leave the springs alone.
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:12 PM
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That's a bummer on the keeper. You sure it didn't go in the engine or head? It sucks when work gets in the way of playing with your hobbies.
Yeah, it didn't go down in the head (I heard it tink tink tink it's way down as it fell but it never made the flat tink of hitting the ground). It was an easy fix when Dusty sent a few spares though!!

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i use an old lifter i opened up and put a washer in under the plunger basically making it a solid lifter,and it is my check lifter. do the same,and leave the valve springs alone.

those claw style spring compressors are hell on the springs too.

furthermore you dont want the valve opening when checking pushrod length,so leave the springs alone.
I'm gonna get another ratchet upside the head.
The reason I went this way was because I didn't want to pull the intake. If I was smart, I would have done this correctly (like you mention here) way back last year when my engine was on the stand. But I am not smart so this is where I end up. Sigh....
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Got the extra keeper installed today and did my measuring. I set the checker are 7.750" and got this pattern:


That looked a bit short to me, so I put the checker to 7.800 and got this pattern:


That second pattern looks correct to me. Comp Cams recommends .045" of preload so I assume I should buy 7.850"?
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:52 PM
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That pattern looks dog near perfect.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:58 PM
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as promised, here are some pics of the parts/tools.
Here is the spark plug disconnect tool I made:



Here are the checker springs compared to the Comp Cams springs. Oh, and by the way; Ristow is right, that tool is rough on the springs. I am not sure if there are other tools to do this job but that one SUCKS. I hope I never have to remove the springs/keepers again. #2's intake spring took about 5 minutes to get back together. #2's exhaust took about 35 minutes. That tool also shredded the palm of my hand.



Take a look at the difference in the poly locks on these 2. The closer rocker has the new shorter (and hopefully correct) push rod and the farther has the push rod I ordered when I was apparently on a crack bender. It's a HUUUUUuuuuge difference. The closer one has about 1.5 threads poking out and the farther one is about 2 threads sunken in. I installed the replacement fuel pump and it worked (I heard it fire up and I have fuel pressure at the TB) but the engine wouldn't start; my injectors were not firing. Wife called me in to fix the washing machine so I had to quit early. Hopefully I can troubleshoot it more tomorrow and take it for a spin.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:38 PM
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OK. Drama. Then some victory.
Last post I could not get my truck started. I poked around quite a bit and as I was troubleshooting, looked down and saw this:

For the untrained eye, the wires coming out of my pickup are all dry rotted and cracked. Those are original AMC parts there.
So I ordered another pickup from Amazon Prime and stabbed it in. For a better look, here it is after I took it out. I texted that picture to babywag and his answer "I'm surprised it even ran." HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Here are the 2. I swapped connectors to weather pack.

Today my son and I fired it up and it ran great! We went for a 15 minute cruise and it ran smooth and nice. No backfires. No dead Alternators. No dead fuel pumps. Decent oil pressure. I plan to drive it to work all week and continue to tweak my tune.
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Old 10-06-2019, 09:45 PM
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Wow, nice going Rang. Almost looked like the wires were hitting the head of the bolt too. Maybe it was the camera angle. Anyhow, nice job. Let us know how it runs.
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:46 AM
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YES!!!

I knew you would get there! That is a major success Marc, now as long as you drive it in 15 minutes stents nothing can go wrong!

Just kidding you are good to go now, tweak that tune!
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:51 AM
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congratulations rang !
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:36 PM
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When we drive it the black dumbo ear mirrors flop over, rendering them pretty much useless. I had a set of stockers laying around so I started swapping them on. Previous owner fiberglassed over the holes. Made it easy to remove and install the stock mirror. I literally just bolted them on for now.

You can see the foot print of my old mirrors slightly below. I'll weld up those holes later.

Here it is. I only quickly threw some metal polish over it. it will polish up nice, later.


I have most of the passenger side mirror but need some little bits to install it. I didn't have much time to mess with it tonight.
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:35 AM
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Does your passenger mirror match the on you just put on???
I am just curious I didn't know they made both in that style i have been looking everywhere for one.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:59 AM
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Nope.
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=187779
Tornado230 says it is not original. Of the VERY FEW passenger mirrors I have seen, they look just like this one so I assumed it was original. I got this one from bkilby a couple years ago and it was on his rig. His original driver side mirror looks exactly like my driver side mirror so I assumed they came together. If I cannot find the bits to make this one work, I'll head over to National Parts Depot (NPD Mirrors link) which is very close to my office and just pick a couple out that I like and can afford.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:14 AM
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Nope.
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=187779
Tornado230 says it is not original. Of the VERY FEW passenger mirrors I have seen, they look just like this one so I assumed it was original. I got this one from bkilby a couple years ago and it was on his rig. His original driver side mirror looks exactly like my driver side mirror so I assumed they came together. If I cannot find the bits to make this one work, I'll head over to National Parts Depot (NPD Mirrors link) which is very close to my office and just pick a couple out that I like and can afford.

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Old 10-08-2019, 09:21 PM
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I got this one from bkilby a couple years ago and it was on his rig. His original driver side mirror looks exactly like my driver side mirror so I assumed they came together.




That's my old mirror? I should have charged you double. Looks good Marc. Keep at it.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:50 PM
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That's my old mirror? I should have charged you double. Looks good Marc. Keep at it.
HahHahahah!!! Im not sure I could afford twice the price!
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So far so good! My BIN is pretty tuned in below 3kRPM. Most BLMs are 128 plus or minus 5. I Just burned one more for this coming week.

I put about 125 miles on it this week. No stalls, no sputters, no overheating, no real drama. It really likes to cruise about 55MPH. That is a nice torquey spot in the engine, the exhaust is pretty quiet there, and I am barely touching the throttle. At 65 the exhaust gets a little droney. I have another straight through muffler I made to see if that helps.
I have a trans leak at the governor to address and a power steering leak somewhere but both are pretty slow and not real high on my priority list.

This week I am going to drive it a bit harder. Last week I drove it how I plan to always drive it. I did not track my MPG but I would guess it is slightly better than about 12MPG. Next week I plan to drive it like a teenager and hopefully mess with my tune to about 4K RPM. I don’t want to go north of 4K until I have my knock sensor installed.
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:15 PM
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Glad to see you got some more glitches resolved. You guys have a lot of patience with that fuel injection.
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Old 10-13-2019, 08:17 AM
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hey rang, I am happy for you,
I know it feels even 10 times better
cruising at 55mph
after going thru some issues.

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Old 10-13-2019, 09:53 AM
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Cant believe you wrench in Flip Flops

Otherwise looking good
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:15 PM
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Cant believe you wrench in Flip Flops

Otherwise looking good


if its good enough for David Freiburger its good enough for Marc!
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Old 10-15-2019, 04:16 AM
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if its good enough for David Freiburger its good enough for Marc!



That's funny right there.
I'm to clumsy to work in flops. Feet would always be hurtin
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Old 10-15-2019, 04:57 PM
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Hahaha! True life. All my sandals have little craters melted into the straps from welding. I also have scars on my feet from sitting on a mechanics chair, welding (in sandals), and having little droplets of molten metal land on my feet. Not that I weld all that much but I do wear sandals pretty exclusively, other than to work. Luckily I have never dropped anything too heavy on my feet while wrenching. I am sure that will happen very soon, now that it has been mentioned.
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