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Old 09-22-2021, 08:00 PM
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Angry "gladiator" ??

what's everybody's take on the new "gladiator" now its been out a couple years ? I know the forum is hilarious ? they ain't Gladiators..I contend!..
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Old 09-22-2021, 08:32 PM
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Glorified Wrangler. A travesty they used the name on that "thing".

And don't even ask about the new Grand Wagoneer....they just put a M-80 in a Grand Cherokee, lit the fuse, slammed the door and called the expanded rig a Wagoneer. The only thing Wagoneer in the ad is a head on shot of a 77/78 boobie grille Waggy.
I feel about the same on the GCL. They just stretched the cherk to cram in a third seat.
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Old 09-22-2021, 10:42 PM
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I agree completely with Goldhammer
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Old 09-23-2021, 03:31 AM
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I love the new Gladiator, but think that they should have called it something else.
I really like Wranglers, so a Wrangler truck seems awesome to me. I just think it was a real missed opportunity not to bring back the "Scrambler" name!
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Old 09-23-2021, 11:48 AM
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"Scrambler" would have been more appropriate.

I did get to drive an Overland with the diesel for a week. It drove well, good power-to-weight ratio, a pretty nice vehicle. Didn't make me want one tho. I guess it was the size: too small to be a real truck, too big to be a small truck. Fuel mileage was quite good, 27.7 mpg in mixed driving. I'd still be a little gun shy to buy that diesel given problems with previous versions.
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Old 09-23-2021, 12:34 PM
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I like it from the outside. I find the Wrangler seating too uncomfortable for me. Expensive too. My KL gets 26 mpg at a steady 70, so 27 combined is impressive. The Wrangler's boxiness works against it. Put big tires on and it will drop a lot, I expect.
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Old 09-23-2021, 01:16 PM
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Glorified Wrangler. A travesty they used the name on that "thing".

And don't even ask about the new Grand Wagoneer....they just put a M-80 in a Grand Cherokee, lit the fuse, slammed the door and called the expanded rig a Wagoneer.


My opinion.. for what its worth ... lol

Gladiator:
Not really a Wrangler ...
The front is the "same" as a Wrangler.. BUT - the truck frame is completely different than the Wrangler...
No body to support the rear section.. a separate bed has huge implications for strength and durability.
Frame: It was an all new design, from scratch to meet the duty cycle of a "truck". Much stronger (and longer) than a Wrangler.
Axles are heavy duty units - shocks are set up differently.
The Mojave version is targeted to high speed desert running with bypass shocks and hydraulic jounce bumpers.

How do I feel about the name?
Eh, It's cool to have a Jeep Truck again, albeit not the full size ones we own and love.
Not really targeted to us "classic" owners...
They reused a classic, established name.
Heck, most folks I run into do not know Jeep ever made a pickup.
( Don't even get me started on my Chief.. NOBODY knows what that is!)

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Wagoneer:
Well, actually, it's a completely new body on frame design.
Closer to a RAM truck really... but all new and different.
Nothing shared with the Grand Cherokee - (which is unibody).
All new independent suspension. It rides better than any vehicle I have ever been in.
Quieter as well. And it tows 10,000 lbs.

Do I "like" the design?
Nope.. too generic for me. looks like most modern full size SUVs. Blah . . .

Hmm, Jeep wants to compete in todays market, not the old one.
It is not targeted to us old school guys.
Other than the name, it's not anything like the ones we love.

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Old 09-23-2021, 07:51 PM
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It's not very good looking and the rear overhang is too long.

I looked at them when I was getting ready to swap out my 2015 Chevy Colorado. The Ranger had just come out too.

I went with the Colorado again (this time a zr2). Less money, better looking and arguably as good off road especially for the trails I take it on.
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Old 09-26-2021, 08:51 AM
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I agree with the Scrambler name idea - definitely looks more like a scrambler. I think they look bada@@ with some lift and bigger tires - nothing outlandish, but stock form they're so-so. Can't justify the money though, I could build a cool older rig for half that. (Or have it built.) But like was said earlier, I don't think it's marketed for us who don't mind crank windows and no back up cameras!
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Old 09-27-2021, 10:58 AM
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They should have named it the Jeep Mall Crawler cuz that's what they do out here. Cracks me up when I see one with $4k worth of lighting upgrades, low profile mudders on 22" rims, and a high lift jack mounted on the hood... you know, so when they get hung up on a curb.

I hated the new Chargers when they came out because they were 4 doors. I got over it. I agree that they should not have named it a "Gladiator" but Jeep owns the name so their call. I think they are selling well so it was probably a good choice. I don't dislike them; I am indifferent to them. I could see me buying one if it was a good deal, but I don't think Jeep needs to sell them for a "good deal" and the resale on them is still about $$$$$$$$$ more than I could afford used anyway.

At least they didn't ruin the name as bad as Chevy did with the new Blazer!
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Old 09-27-2021, 07:47 PM
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At least they didn't ruin the name as bad as Chevy did with the new Blazer!
You ain't kiddin about that one!!
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Old 09-28-2021, 09:32 AM
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At least they didn't ruin the name as bad as Chevy did with the new Blazer!
Or the Mustang Mach E.
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Old 09-28-2021, 11:01 AM
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Or the Mustang Mach E.
I have a buddy with one and we both think the same thing: It should have been called a Ford Mach E. Electric 2 door Mustang would be OK. 4 door coupe Mustang OK. 2 door crossover mustang, slightly OK. But an electric, 4 door, crossover Mustang is just
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Old 09-29-2021, 03:12 AM
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I have a buddy with one and we both think the same thing: It should have been called a Ford Mach E. Electric 2 door Mustang would be OK. 4 door coupe Mustang OK. 2 door crossover mustang, slightly OK. But an electric, 4 door, crossover Mustang is just

Yeah, definitely a step too far! I always thought they should bring back the Galaxie name, but maybe style it as "Galax-E"
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Well, got another Ford goodie of stepping in it. Just saw an add for the new Maverick. A unibody pickup ( think Honda Ridgeline) that looks like it's based off of the Escape (like the Bronco).
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Well, got another Ford goodie of stepping in it. Just saw an add for the new Maverick. A unibody pickup ( think Honda Ridgeline) that looks like it's based off of the Escape (like the Bronco).

But the maverick was a car from the 70's?
Wouldn't ranchero have been a better choice?


While I agree with the above posters that scrambler would have been the better choice for the name of the current wrangler pickup, at least the gladiator was a actual truck.
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Old 10-03-2021, 06:02 PM
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Yep, Maverick was a late 60's to mid 70's car. Based off the Falcon/Mustang chassis, IIRC
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Idunno why they don't make a truck. Sure they'd loose some Dodge sales but they would pull in a lot of Chevy, Ford, Toeyota, etc, owners.
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