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Old 07-19-2019, 10:44 AM
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1970 Wagoneer Dash Mounted Ignition switch Diagram

Would anyone by chance happen to have a good wiring diagram (including wire colors) or a photograph of their dash mounted ignition switch, please? TSM, Chilton and search function on here and FSJN haven't turned up anything. Google gives me lots of other ones, but not the one in these older Waggies. I'm trying to confirm wiring and connections on mine. Thank you for any assistance.
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http://oljeep.com/gw/elec/72/72wire_dash.jpg

should be very close
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:29 AM
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Tony, thank you. I did see that, but forgot to add it into the list of places checked. I don't know enough about the wiring to tell the differences. I imagine it's close, but not sure, the ignition switch I have in has more terminals than wiring plugs hanging under the dash, jut trying to make sure I get them on the right terminals and the right colors...of course that's trusting that the wires hanging under the dash are going to the right places. I'm printing it out and then going to go pick through what's installed to see if it's similar. Thanks
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Usually, the switches are also marked...
A DVM is cheap and helpful if you need to double check any wires.
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Old 07-19-2019, 03:59 PM
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Tony, thank you. I used the diagram you linked to and a copy of my 70 from the TSM, and am tracing them out now (like tgreese suggested)...test light is showing me two lines hot in run (likely a short between the Neutral Safety Switch and Solenoid). Boo, I will have to start hunting through the wire bundles to find the break/short. The bummer is that the colors don't match (purple instead of blue and such). Thanks!
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:48 PM
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Well, looks like I will be running some new wires. The plug into the back of the Pig's ignition switch is cracked up and has several terminals that are separated. I had to trim back through a pile of wires to find a couple that had melted and were shorting out the starter (starter coming on in run...and while driving). Joy!
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The diagram in the factory service manual doesn't show color codes,
so like Tony said a meter is necessary. When I saw the mess hanging
off the ignition switch in my 69, all the splices and inline fuses, I just
ripped it out and replaced that crap with a harness from a newer Cadillac.
I kinda know GM color code, so it was easier than copying the existing
cryptic color code. Plus got a real fuse block. Could not afford Painless.
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The 63-5 manual shows color codes. They are pretty close to the 66-72 wiring that they can be used. And it's very common to have more terminals than wires. Some of those terminals where used for options. I just saw a diagram I had made up the other day. If I find it I'll post it, but the TSM has it pretty well pictured.
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The diagram in the factory service manual doesn't show color codes,
so like Tony said a meter is necessary. When I saw the mess hanging
off the ignition switch in my 69, all the splices and inline fuses, I just
ripped it out and replaced that crap with a harness from a newer Cadillac.
I kinda know GM color code, so it was easier than copying the existing
cryptic color code. Plus got a real fuse block. Could not afford Painless.

Yup, it is all sorts of ugly under mine as well. I am trying to fish out where they all go since some seem to just get lost in a bundle of other wires, or disappear behind the ducting and hide. I have read up on some of the new harness options (painless, ezwire, etc.)...but will probably just replace the ones that need it now so I can drive it again. Although adding in a fuse box might be fairly quick.

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The 63-5 manual shows color codes. They are pretty close to the 66-72 wiring that they can be used. And it's very common to have more terminals than wires. Some of those terminals where used for options. I just saw a diagram I had made up the other day. If I find it I'll post it, but the TSM has it pretty well pictured.

Thank you, I didn't go back to the earlier manuals. That's a relief too on the presence of extra terminals. If you happen to find that diagram I would be most appreciative. I'll have to set up an imgur/flickr account to share pictures of the melted ones I am working to repair.
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