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Old 05-26-2017, 03:58 PM
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What's even harder is finding a tcase guy that knows wtf he's doing and to get him to return phone calls. The Norcal guy never called today after me telling him yesterday that I'm ready to buy. I found a new guy fairly local that says he has two. I gave him my phone number for him to send pics (at his request) and never heard from him either.
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Old 05-29-2017, 08:18 AM
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What a wild ride. I really appreciate your desire to go MOPAR and Hemi to boot. Good luck on the tcase hunt!
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Old 05-29-2017, 09:47 PM
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Ha! Thanks! I have a nice NP231DHD sitting at the shop that I ended up installing today. Well, kind of. Had to get rid of the gas tank to get it in. I need a tranny mount solution now but I'm working on it.

This will require a late model front axle though. I think I might know where to get one. The floor is shaped to favor a passenger drop tcase but I think I can still make this all work. I'm thinking a TJ shifter with the cable mod from either Novak or Advance Adapters but my big concern is the input gear. It's just barely long enough to engage the seal. The long gear is too long but I might have to get one and machine it down to fit proper. Time will tell. Now to find a rear mount gas tank. I think I'll call Aero Tanks tomorrow to get their dimension. I don't like tanks that hand down too low....
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Old 05-30-2017, 02:52 PM
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This will require a late model front axle though.

I have a late model front axle if needed. As for the transmission mount- mine is based off the 2000 chevy silverado 1500 ones. 4.5 inches apart. Your PM box is full.

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Old 06-01-2017, 07:32 AM
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Finally got around to making the trans mount. I ended up using the poly mount from the Qtrac (chevy mount) and made it work. The trans adapter has 4 threaded holes to bolt the OEM trans mount to the adapter. The two front holes are 1/2" lower than the rear holes. I ended up cutting a couple pieces of 1/4" plate to make up that difference, then tapped two holes for the poly mount. Kinda hard to explain without pics and my iphone camera died, but I'll get some pics...

Anyhow, on the crossmember I ended up cutting the top center section out and cut another piece of 1/4" plate with slots and welded to the crossmember. It's not too hard to do, just takes a little time. The trans mount wasn't sitting parallel to the cross member (due to angle of engine) and although it would have worked, I spaced up the 1/4" plate anyhow. I had to take these pics with a friends phone. Also, because I'm using a left hand drop tcase, I flipped the crosss member around for better front drive shaft clearance.





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Old 06-01-2017, 03:12 PM
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That looks like it will work just fine.
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Old 06-01-2017, 04:33 PM
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Thanks Frank. If it doesn't, I'll be the first to know. Lol.
Now if I can just get out of this office and go work on my junk...
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:12 PM
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Look really good, I bet it will work just fine!
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:59 AM
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As luck would have it, I found the tcase I need on Ebay last night. For cheap too so I bought it. It should be here in a couple of days to test fit and decide to use it or the one that's in now. Too bad I didn't see it last week before cutting up the cross member. Lol.
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Old 06-05-2017, 08:17 AM
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That is exactly the kind of luck that I have.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:32 AM
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Not much to write about right now. Just in a holding pattern for parts. Tcase and exhaust manifold gaskets mainly. I have the computer and wire harness on order, should see that in 2-3 weeks. I'm definitely going need to relocate the throttle body. It's pointing straight up and there's not enough room to add an intake elbow and still close the hood. Jeep Speed Shop makes an adapter to relocate the TB do the pass. side of the engine and point it towards the fender. Hood clearance!
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Old 06-13-2017, 04:59 PM
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So, I got the NP241D in on Friday and found out right away that the input gear is too long. I picked up a shorter one but I'm afraid it might be a little too short. Won't know until we pour fluid in and fire it up to see if it leaks. The tcase is installed and looking just fine. Nice part is, it has a fixed rear yoke and both front and rear are 32 spline. Oh and the speedo cable screws right on.

The tcase:






No room for the exhaust on the passenger side anymore.



Exhaust will have to go down the DS. Bye bye gas tank!



Checking front drive shaft clearance to the cross member. All good!



I had this DS from another vehicle that I might just use. It'll need to be shorted and get a 1350 yoke for the D44 but it's still cheaper than new stuff.





Now to get the exhaust manifolds installed. This is the difference between the stock truck "log" manifold and the SRT8 manifold.

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Old 06-13-2017, 06:04 PM
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So, I got the NP241D in on Friday and found out right away that the input gear is too long. I picked up a shorter one but I'm afraid it might be a little too short. Won't know until we pour fluid in and fire it up to see if it leaks. The tcase is installed and looking just fine. Nice part is, it has a fixed rear yoke and both front and rear are 32 spline. Oh and the speedo cable screws right on.

What Dodge application comes with a fixed rear yoke from factory?


If your need something between a short and long input and have trouble finding one, you could probably run the long input with a clocking ring to shim it a bit. There's both 3/8" and 7/8" thick clocking rings that I've found available. If you can clock the tcase some without it cause nightmares, that is.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:36 AM
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What Dodge application comes with a fixed rear yoke from factory?


If your need something between a short and long input and have trouble finding one, you could probably run the long input with a clocking ring to shim it a bit. There's both 3/8" and 7/8" thick clocking rings that I've found available. If you can clock the tcase some without it cause nightmares, that is.

Good question! If the tag on the tcase hasn't been changed out, the P/N is 53006100. I'm guessing a 1989 Dodge 3/4 or 1 ton truck, maybe even a diesel. Some have the slip yoke, some have the fixed yoke. By finding one with the factory fixed yoke, you save yourself $440 by not having to buy JB Conversions SYE kit. And the front yoke is a 1350 flange style yoke that fit that 2013 drive shaft perfectly.

I thought about the clocking ring but I can't really use one. For a spacer yes, but for a clocking ring no. I can't clock it up any higher without beating the floor in. I kinda skipped to the chase when writing that stuff today. What I actually did was, I took the long gear to a machine shop around the corner and had them machine the inner splines away about 1/2" deep. I thought I had enough room for the long gear, but I ran out of splines on the tranny output shaft. Well, we were off about 1/8" and it still wouldn't bolt up correctly. I think I need to machine the whole gear down around a 1/4" and maybe the inner splines a little more. This was late Friday after noon and once I realized the problem, they were closing for the weekend and I wanted this done. That's why I bought the new gear. Also, the machine shop guy just moved out of one building and is kinda busy prepping it for the new tenant.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:42 PM
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Hey look, it fits! The engine can't possibly move that much right? Time to slice it up.

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Old 06-16-2017, 11:29 AM
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So, anyone here ever build their own gas tank? I'm curious to see what their internal baffle looks like.
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Old 06-17-2017, 11:20 PM
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I went to the junkyard the other day to get another heater box in case I screwed mine up. Got it cheap too. I did a little cutting on it to see just how far I can go before the heater core becomes the limiting factor. Let's just say that heater core is tall.

New (used) heater box.



I've cut as much of the box away as possible. The heater core is less than 1/8" from the edge.





I wen to a local radiator shop and he had a core that wasn't so tall. The bottom of the tape represents that core. It's still a little too close for my liking.



So now, I have a new heater core on order. It's 6" wide and 6" tall. The core should sit right about where my cut is now, just above the tape. Once I cut the box more, I hope to have enough clearance to make this work. Fingers crossed!
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:57 PM
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Been a busy week but finally got time to work on the heater box more. Half done, half to go.

First, the new heater core.



The beginning of cutting the box up.



Clamp city!



Done with this half...for now.



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Old 06-24-2017, 11:34 AM
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You're doing king great work man. Love your rig and can't wait to see more of this progress!
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Old 06-24-2017, 12:01 PM
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wow! It looks fantastic!
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