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Old 10-22-2020, 06:37 AM
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That lawn mower! Oh, and great work on the Jeep too. Looking great!

LOL, thanks!
Yeah, the smell of cut grass is bad enough for me, but smelling gas mower fumes brings me back to unpleasant childhood labor memories, so I went all new-fangled and bought the battery powered beast.
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Old 10-22-2020, 07:51 AM
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Last night I put the base and bench seat bottom together after polishing the screws and putting some good gorilla duct tape on the ribs to keep the bottom and base from scraping on each other, then installed in rear to mock up and get it out of the way. I'll need to remove when I eventually get upholstery:


Also made major progress last night on the sunroof. I dug out the frame assembly that has the motor, hooked it up to my battery, and it actually works great going back and forth along the tracks.


I'd forgotten to trace where the upper right 3-wire red/black/grey connector went the other night...


Turns out it's for the up/down tilt mechanism to vent:


Yay, it's a match:


This is the tilt mechanism:


This is part of the driver's side tilt mechanism I need to fix. Pretty sure I have the broken piece somewhere that I can gorilla glue back together:
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:47 AM
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Decided to take the front passenger seat apart to check it out and eventually get the upholstery over to the shop to see if they can recreate the pattern for me. Discovered the frame is bent near the position switch. No idea how that happened, just another head scratcher on this waggy. Appears something nailed it from the back, which bent the back inward and toward the front, and the force of the hit drove the side outward:


I'm sure I could fix it, but I picked up a donor seat at the salvage yard last weekend just in case, and since it's in better shape and less rusted I'll just use the donor. Took everything off and verified everything is identical. Nice that they didn't change anything for many years!


Mixing and matching the original and donor passenger seat. Original bottom foam is in better shape, so will match to donor frame.


Figured out how to remove the headrest with the twisty knob thing:


Got stuck on the removal of the headrest hole things, so researched how to take them off today. Will tackle that tonight and post the pics:
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Old 10-22-2020, 02:21 PM
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dang that seat must have taken a blow.

I see you are still moving at warp speed.

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Old 10-22-2020, 03:57 PM
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dang that seat must have taken a blow.

I see you are still moving at warp speed.

dave in NC

Yeah, it's very weird. The rear bench was also bashed in a bit in the middle with those 2 weak spot welds popped, so something slid forward into both seats at some point when this waggy was in a likely front end collision. I think both seats are original to the car.

The previous owner said they'd caused a bent front aluminum bumper by pushing a dead vehicle forward or something, but not sure I believe that.

The bent bumper, a badly replaced front fender was missing attaching bolts and looked horrible, and bent sheet metal behind the front grill that I fixed all point toward a front end accident and sudden shift of items toward the front a lot better, especially considering the seats.

No frame damage though, or anything else amiss elsewhere, so I'll just shrug and move on with the resto.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:03 PM
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Cool Build. Thanks for taking the time.
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Old 10-23-2020, 08:34 AM
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Cool Build. Thanks for taking the time.

Heck yeah, it's fun to do and document. If I can help anyone figure stuff out with this, or give them ideas (like I get from other build threads!) then all the better.

I was busy building a newly purchased bed frame for our new king size mattress last night, so didn't have any time to do anything besides put the lower seat foam back on and take a couple pics.



Had the foam leaned on something and created a temporary divot.
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:53 AM
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Sun Roof Assembly

Hey Rob,

Really nice work you're doing on your rig.

I have a complete, fully functioning sunroof assembly complete with motor, capacitor box, switch, everything. Opens and closes correctly with rear tilt functioning correctly. Let me know if you're interested in it.

text me on 415-516-0849
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Old 10-24-2020, 07:12 AM
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seat foam looks NEW !!!!!

you cleaned the HECK out of it !!!

sounds like pnlombardi has a rare find with the sunroof assembly.

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Old 10-24-2020, 08:10 PM
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Here is what I have for a switch. This is out of an fsj it's switch is missing. the one with a switch is from an xj or zj. The other pic is a factory sunroof console front section. left is xj/zj right is fsj.
















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Old 10-25-2020, 08:25 PM
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It looks like it was just stuck on the end of the overhead console. How many wires are going into that particular switch?

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Here is what I have for a switch. This is out of an fsj it's switch is missing. the one with a switch is from an xj or zj. The other pic is a factory sunroof console front section. left is xj/zj right is fsj.

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Old 10-25-2020, 08:59 PM
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Well, I took stock of the sunroof and I found all the bits and pieces. I can fix everything, but I do have a very worn gasket that goes around the rear top of the sunroof for water-tight integrity that I'll need to replace, and the small gasket that goes around the glass itself that also needs replaced. Not sure if anyone makes those replacements or not, but I'll see what I can figure out.

Otherwise, I got a PM, sent a couple PMs, and did more research on the switch and other bits. It'll be a couple weeks at least before I can figure out next moves there, but I think I'll keep the sunroof installed instead of a solid roof.

Most of the weekend was spent painting remaining backseat frames, and putting them together.


Don't care about overspray here since the upholstery will cover it:


Latch release and spring:


Putting everything back together:


Was able to clean the bolts, nuts, and rubber feet from donor very well:


Installed and out of the way waiting for upholstery:


Opposite view:
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Old 10-25-2020, 10:22 PM
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Got the passenger side power seat base all lubed up. Had a dead control switch so used one of my spares from the salvage yard. Have a full 12V at the floor harnesses so plugged them in, mocked them up, and played with them.



My original bolts are horribly rusted so have a new kit coming tomorrow from TGW. Will hopefully get the carpet laid and holes cut, then bolt the bases to the floor.

Now, for an odd question, why the hell are there extra holes here (that I labeled with a "?" and have my finger pointing to)? I'd read about a possible bench seat bolting point, but when did these things ever have a bench seat, especially into the 80s?
Why not just redesign the floorpans and delete these holes?
You'll notice I labeled each of the 4 seat base holes with an "S" denoting they're for the seats.

Passenger side. Bottom of the mystery hole is threaded like the seat holes.


Driver side. Bottom of the mystery hole is again threaded like the seat holes.

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Old 10-25-2020, 11:00 PM
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Finally figured out how to get the headrest mounting internals released from within the bowels of the seat thanks to an old thread on here. Got way down into the foam, used 2 screwdrivers to push the wedges back in, and yanked the guts out:


Here they are yanked out, and me grabbing the wedges:


Well, as it turns out, the donor passenger seat I got (from an 81 or 83, can't remember) has no internals within the frame or foam to mount headrests for the later model waggys like mine, so I decided to hammer out the damage on the original seat.

A recap of the damage:


Here it is all nicely reshaped after some hammering.


Both uppers and frames drying from heavy washing. Both lowers were in the laundry room drying out over the washing machine. Dang things are heavy sponges when wet:
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Old 10-26-2020, 07:49 AM
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mystic rob,

my crystal ball and the fsj spirits say:

holes in floor for Bench seat,
in earlier models
or stripped down base model in later years.

those seat buns are indeed,...heavy when wet

nice work as usual....

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Old 10-26-2020, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
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It looks like it was just stuck on the end of the overhead console. How many wires are going into that particular switch?




It has 4


If you need this I'm more than happy to send it to you. whether it be the switch or the entire console part.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:58 PM
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It has 4... If you need this I'm more than happy to send it to you. whether it be the switch or the entire console part.

Yes please. Just PM'd you.
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:13 PM
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I put this info in my Wanted Ad, figured I'd post it here too.

So I did some more research on the sunroof. Between the ASC decal on the driver door, and the measurements of 37.x" wide and 19.x" deep, I think I have the Model 950 sunroof based on this sunroof doctor page:
http://www.sunroofdoctor.com/ASC-Inalfa_c_108.html

That would likely mean I should have this particular switch...


...based on this web site below.
https://www.shopsar.com/asc-800-950-...-56x5-0031.htm
This switch is the only one I've seen that actually matches a couple of my harness wire colors.

Anyone have one that looks like this?
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Old 10-28-2020, 12:48 PM
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Still working on the passenger floors and carpet kit this week. Got my new seat bolt and stud kit from TGW so started fitting sound deadener and cutting holes for seats, center arm rest assembly, and seat belt anchors.

Carpet kit has a ton of padding but I have some leftover sound deadening I'm using for 'tinny' areas of the front and rear floors:




Also had time last night to sand down the donor center arm rest assembly brackets and paint them, and the 2 sets of bolts to hold it for the floor.


Painted and ready to install at some point. Brackets had some pitting, but these donors were in FAR better shape than my originals, which I tossed long ago.
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Old 10-28-2020, 02:00 PM
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LOOKS GREAT ROB
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