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Old 02-26-2020, 08:37 AM
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Engine replacement question 90 gw and 78 wag

Hey all. I have a 78 wag with no engine, a th400 and qt. It had a 360 in it.

I also have a rusty 90 gw with a 360 and tf727. I am planning on yanking the 360 from that and swapping it into the 78.



My question: What are all the extra parts I need to get? I think I need to get a flexplate for 78 th400 and that's it.



also, I'm planning on redoing my gaskets on the 360 while I've got it out. Anything else you all would recommend doing before I drop it in?


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Old 02-26-2020, 09:45 AM
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There are some small differences...

flexplate and crank spacer ring needed for th400
the starter is different 78 vs 90
driver side manifold for 78 with passenger drop axle is different
power steering gearbox and pump are probably flare fittings on 78
90 is metric o-ring so you'll need adapter fittings or custom hoses with ends changed for 78? Or you could use an earlier ps pump fitting to change ps pump to flare fitting.

If you search using google or bing with "site:ifsja.org" specified it'll bring up previous thread discussions on all this.
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Old 02-26-2020, 09:56 AM
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Ditto what Tony said. Shouldn't be hard to source a 70s LH exhaust manifold. AMC Motorcraft starters are still available at most parts stores or online.

The "sizing ring" is available here:
https://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/...hings/j5352374
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I would consider a new timing set, replace the valve stem seals and rework the oil pump housing. Also if the engine can still be turned over, I would run a compression test.
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Old 02-26-2020, 07:59 PM
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There will be a lot of minor things that will be annoying, but you should be aware of them:

* The '90 will have a metric-thread oil-filter; you can swap in the nipple from the older engine to use standard-thread filters.
* The outer exhaust-port bolt-holes are 5/16", not 3/8" like your '78
* The PCV valve on the '90 will be in-line and connect to a 90' pipe on the back of the intake, unlike the PCV that fits into a grommet on the intake on the '78
* The 2150 carburetor on the '90 will have an altitude-compensator, and perhaps different hookups than your '78.
* The oil-pan drain bolt will be in a different position, but I don't think it will be in the way of anything on your '78
* The A/C compressor bracket on the '90 will be for a Sanden compressor rather than a York. You may also have a different alternator bracket, but everything should swap over from one to the other, EXCEPT that the pivot-bolt on the '78 is larger, I believe, so that may not swap directly over. The '91 did use the same type alternator, however, unlike the '77 and earlier, so you can keep the brackets from the '90.
* You'll want to use the sending-units from the '78, as the '90 used different gauges, and I believe different senders.

The critical thing that others mentioned is the spacer sleeve for the smaller snout on the TH400 torque-converter.
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