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Old 06-25-2020, 09:26 PM
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Huh. My non factory carpet with jute measures exactly the same. Maybe I have jolly green giant legs but my knee hits the steering wheel when my leg is vertical. I have to drive with my knee pointing to the center console like a chicken wing to keep it from hitting. I think the measurement was 22.5" from the brake pedal pad to the bottom of the steering wheel, towards the front.



Of course we're measuring vertical distance from the floor up and not in the arc the pedal travels, but close enough I suppose. My pedal needs to move about an inch closer to the "firewall" to make it more comfortable. But maybe that's just me......
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:50 PM
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Slooow Progress . . .

So, have been working through all the details that are not exciting, or photo worthy.
However, they MUST be done. Details take time!

Got all the hydraboost hoses done and run.. now need to take it all apart and set up the brake pedal.
Then bench bleed the master cylinder.. and make the new brake lines.
Then bleed the system.

Also, I need the accel pedal. Turns out I have to order my own... Hmm. Oh well, it's coming from Amazon.
After i get that, and get some PS fluid in the system, I can actually run the engine for a bit to ensure things are A-OK.

Here is the new "Double Double" Carden rear driveshaft from MR Woods. They make good stuff.
Also of note, new output yokes and bolts for the t-case and axle. They came all bolted up.

[IMG][/IMG]
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:54 AM
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Burned Out . . .

I have gotten tired of working on the Jeep project. Took a few days off ...

Yesterday, I did remove the brake system and cut the adjustable rod length to set the pedal height.
Then tightened up all the high pressure hoses for what I think will be the last time.

First pic - This inside where the rod comes through to the brake pedal pin. i have yet to install the washer and cotter pin.

Second pic - Brake pedal in relation to accel pedal height. I can adjust this as there this is a threaded rod.

[IMG][/IMG]

[IMG][/IMG]

Next, I got the Camaro accel pedal. It has no offset. Removed the stock pedal and started to mock this one up.
I removed the plastic spacer so only the metal back remained.. then played around with where/how to mount it.

Turns out, there are some holes in the middle of the pedal. one of these lined up reasonably well with one of the original accel pedal mount holes. Heck, lets try it.
Sure enough, it locates the pedal pretty well. I sat in the driver seat and it feels and works well. I will add another bolt and call it good.

[IMG][/IMG]
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'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
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Old 07-07-2020, 11:12 PM
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Engine Making Noise . . .

In Todays News:

Have spent a few days making brackets for the PS remote reservoir.. and ECU.
These will mount on the inner fenders, PS on the pass side, ECU on the driver side. No pics yet...
It is SOB HOT and humid here the last week or so ...

After I got the PS reservoir mounted, I added fluid.. and ran the engine for the first time [ More than 3 seconds like the initial starts ].
With the new pedal, it fired right up..... ran a bit confused for about 15 seconds, then quieted down and purred.
I am surprised at how quiet it is with just the front cats and short open pipes.

I let the engine get up to temp twice... No leaks!
Cycled the steering several times to fill the hydraboost/PS system and purge any trapped air in the steering box / hydraboost / cooler.

My OE temp sender works - check.
Temp gauge runs right in the green, a little below center. PWM fan came on and kept it all cool. Fan was running slowly and very quietly - love that! Of course, the fan will crank up if needed.
BTW - it was 98 degrees in the garage when I started it.

OE oil sender works too! Oil pressure was a steady 42 psi.

Strangely, there are no fluids dripping anywhere? That's a first !!

Now - the long road of putting it all back together so it can be driven. Plenty of parts to install and finish up yet.

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'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
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Old 07-07-2020, 11:21 PM
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No videos?!? Waaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
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Old 07-07-2020, 11:33 PM
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No videos?!? Waaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!

LOL - Not yet.

Heck, it was so hot I didn't even have the phone out there to take any pics.

Will imgbb host videos ?
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'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:33 AM
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You know how it works. Video or it didn’t happen.
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:48 AM
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OK Eric .. I HAVE video, but have NO idea how to post it ...

Does a picture of it WHILE it's running count ?? lol

[IMG][/IMG]

Pic of the PS remote reservoir bracket all mounted up AS the engine is running . . .

[IMG][/IMG]

Looks like a mess! BUT - all the hydraboost is hooked up and no leaks !

[IMG][/IMG]

The ECU bracket I made that will mount on the driver inner fender. Small block is the mount for the fuse box.

[IMG][/IMG]

ECU and fuse box mounted ... for now

[IMG][/IMG]
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'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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Old 07-10-2020, 03:52 PM
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You know how it works. Video or it didnt happen.
Yep. What he said. A YouTube link is always an option. Just sayin...
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Old 07-11-2020, 09:47 PM
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Output Yoke Day !

Today was nice and cool instead of the 98 degree heat we have been having.. so a good day to crawl around under the Jeep.
This led to me changing all the output yokes [ well 3 of the 4 ] to new ones that will work with a Carden joint. Of course, I had to test fit the front and rear driveshafts as well.

First, the rear axle .. Standard SJ 44 .. One of the few times i use a 2 jaw puller! Remember, I now have a Carden joint at BOTH ends of the rear driveshaft.
{ Sorry in advance for the crappy pics.. the light from outside washed them out }

[IMG][/IMG]

Love these cordless impacts !

[IMG][/IMG]

Next up .. The Dana 300 front and rear yokes...
As a side note, IF you decide to use the seal protector/slinger, the bolts will NOT fit after install. you need to have them in place BEFORE installing the slinger. Ask me how I know.. UGH.
In the end, I decided not to use them anyway. Of course, I had already installed the front when I discovered this fact. Oops.

[IMG][/IMG]

Was concerned about clearance to the fuel tank - but it seems OK.

[IMG][/IMG]

Looking over the offset rear axle to the now centered t-case output. Note the angle...

[IMG][/IMG]

After this fun, I cleaned up and installed more wiring underhood. I also made a heat shield for the driver side as the exhaust will run close to the trans in its final configuration... No pics.
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1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2005 Unlimited Rubicon - Built
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280
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Old 07-12-2020, 12:51 AM
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Interesting rear driveshaft. Don't recall seeing anyone run one like that. So when setting up the pinion angle do you follow the rules of a CV shaft or ? What did Tom say about it? Nice work as usual.
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Old 07-13-2020, 02:35 PM
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They're out there, Brad. Lots of folks run the offset rear with a center case output. He had another thread on it, too.

Those 327 stickers are PERFECT!!!! Well done!
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Old 07-13-2020, 03:41 PM
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Interesting rear driveshaft. Don't recall seeing anyone run one like that. So when setting up the pinion angle do you follow the rules of a CV shaft or ? What did Tom say about it? Nice work as usual.

I talked with Tom awhile .. and we discussed the multiple angles. He felt I could likely get away with one Carden..
But he asked how worried I was about any vibrations. I want none as this is going to be a road trip Jeep.

Soo - I choose to do a "Double Double" Carden.. lol.
He says they do this on Land Cruisers all the time to address the offset axles... Not uncommon.

I guess a test drive will tell the tale in the end...
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'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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Old 07-13-2020, 03:44 PM
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Those 327 stickers are PERFECT!!!! Well done!

Thank You ! ( MR Sanborn strikes again ! )

I figured it is a 327.. so why not?

So it's a Chevy engine.. with Hemi orange and hybrid decals.
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'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
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Old 07-13-2020, 07:33 PM
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They're out there, Brad. Lots of folks run the offset rear with a center case output. He had another thread on it, too.

Those 327 stickers are PERFECT!!!! Well done!




With CV's at both ends of the drive shafts? That's not common. I get the offset rear end and centered tcase output (I contemplated the same thing myself , but I wasn't talking about that. Lol.
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Your project is looking better each week. You will have to let us know if there is any vibration once you test drive it. I would also be curious about any vibration while pulling a load.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:23 PM
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In Today's News . . .

Brakes: Had a buddy come over and help me do the brake line flairs. Apparently I do NOT have the magic touch. Hmm . . .
Tom does:

[IMG][/IMG]

So we got the lines made up, bench bled the master, then bled the brake system... Had to hook up the brake pedal and set the pedal height first.

And we have brakes !
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'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:29 PM
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What ! ??

Can it be? An empty spot in the garage ?? Something moved . . .

[IMG]http://[/IMG]

Yes, it actually DROVE out under it's own power.
Now that I have brakes, I feel safe putting it in gear!

[IMG][/IMG]

Still a lot of reassembly to do, but feel the end is in sight now.

I don't know how to post video here, so here's a link to my facebook post :

https://www.facebook.com/jim.repp.1/...type=3&theater
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2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:53 PM
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"Other" Stuff . . .

As there is still a LOT to do, I didn't stop after pulling the Jeep out for the first time..

Had to get the t-case in gear, so I put the carpet down and put the knob on... The Dana 300 fits VERY well I must say... The CJ boot will look right at home when I get it all installed.

[IMG][/IMG]

Next up? Well, i had to take the hood off the roof to clear the door, so figured I would get started on that . . .
I need to install the new under hood insulation / sound deadener before reinstalling the hood.

Step One: Clean it.
I don't know what kind of funk place this Jeep was stored in when I bought it, but there is a layer of scum all over underhood
[ Well, there WAS when I bought it. - I never really cleaned up the hood ]

So some degreaser mixed in water.. and go

[IMG][/IMG]

Step Two: Scuff all the loose crud and paint off with a wire brush... Use air to blow away the debris.
Then wipe it all down with Prep-Sol.

[IMG][/IMG]

Step Three: Test fit the underhood sound insulation.
Question for you guys.. I know this is usually installed with the "smooth black" surface against the hood.
BUT, I kinda like the look of the smooth surface showing.
Thoughts on installing it with the smooth face showing?

[IMG][/IMG]

Here's a section of the "normal" side that shows.. It's the grey part. Seems to me this will soak up more dirt than the other side...

[IMG][/IMG]

Step Four: Tape off hood, and paint it black to match the rest of my underhood...
Note, you can see the remnants of old glue.. I couldn't get it off. I think the last guys who painted it just painted right over it.
No big deal as it will be covered by the hood insulation anyway.

[IMG][/IMG]

Step Five: Install the insulation.. DELAYED as I have to let the paint dry well and decide which side I want showing.

Getting excited .. might be able to actually drive it soon.
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1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2005 Unlimited Rubicon - Built
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280
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NICE WORK AS USUAL !

on the hood insulation:

I came across this when replacing the insulation on an SS Monte Carlo

I asked the supplier,.... which side faces engine ?

they would never answer,

when I showed them I had installed with smooth black toward engine they said ...."that works "

so I think it is intended for smooth side to be toward hood
but the other way seems better,.....

although I used dynamat's "hoodliner" on both my FSJ's

P.S. just thought, I bet spray adhesive does better on the smooth side for more contact area as opposed to fuzzy side
and on a Monte Carlo the insulation is held on by large round push in clips, not adhesive,.... so on an FSJ using glue, the smooth Side may stick/hold better ??????

ready to see the Cherokee in action.

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