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Old 09-04-2010, 09:48 AM
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This is great and for a drag car the Chero (for it's weight) really has an advantage with the weight distributed to the rear right where you want it. Now... you didn't find that clean ring in Michigan did you? That's awesome! I also appreciate the AMC going in a GM chassis for a change and I'm going to love watching your videos of this rig stomping Chevy's.

I'm hoping to save at least 800 lbs on this Cherokee over the Wagoneer and the majority of that is coming off the front half. The Wagoneer is already heavier in the back so we'll see where this one ends up. Just the rolling frame is a bunch lighter than the old one. Should be a lot more stable at speed and the aftermarket for C10 suspension is endless.

The origins of the body are pretty interesting. I got the body without a current title from 83LaredoWT out of Wisconsin. I don't remember where he got it from but it had an OLD Florida title and registration stickers from Italy. So basically it's been all over the place, lol. Here's some pics of the stickers it's accumulated over the years.


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Old 09-12-2010, 08:48 PM
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Just a small update, got the body mounts cut but haven't had time to weld them on. Really been focusing my time on the engine build. Got the heads finished and assembled, the short block was together until I noticed a big 'ol crack in #8 cylinder. Looks like I'm going to have to use the 401 block I was saving for the Wagoneer on this one. To top it all off I hurt the 360 in the Wagoneer Friday and probably the trans too. So now I've got to build 2 engines and 2 transmissions in addition to a ground-up Cherokee build.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:15 PM
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While not being a 2WD guy, I would love to see where this goes. Very nice build!!
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:01 PM
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About time to bring this back from the dead. Not a lot of exciting work going on right now but I did get all the body mounts tacked on. It's more or less just some rectangle tubing but it worked out great. Because the stock body bolts didn't come out I used different body mount points which conveniently line up with drain holes in the floor. I'll be able to actually bolt the body down without messing with those captive nuts.


http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...4102_large.jpg


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Interior is still pretty sparce but I did bolt in a steering column so I can figure out the steering linkage.


http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...4098_large.jpg


I threw the new grille and a set of front fenders on just for the heck of it.


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I picked up these fiberglass fenders from Zack @ J&M Jeeps the other weekend.


http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...4105_large.jpg


Here's some pics from test fitting a spare 401. I really like the way it fits so far. The next step is to see how it fits with a transmission connected and then make some mounts.


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Speaking of engines, I snapped some pics of the Indy intake. It's got a LOT of work into it since these pictures but no pictures of that.


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And lastly, some pics of the sweet valve covers I picked up from ebay after I refinished them.


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Old 10-31-2010, 12:49 PM
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Old 10-31-2010, 03:19 PM
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Looks like a cool build are you going to keep the stock rear end ??

As long as you keep the AMC power under the hood I dont care what chevy parts you use
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how does that Indy intake compare to the Edelbrock Air-Gap manifold?
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Old 10-31-2010, 05:18 PM
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Looks like a cool build are you going to keep the stock rear end ??

As long as you keep the AMC power under the hood I dont care what chevy parts you use

The stock truck 12 bolt is getting the boot and the Wagoneer is going to donate it's rear axle to the build. It's a 35 spline Ford 8.8 with a steel spool, 4.10s, and disc brakes. The width is perfect for the Cherokee with the wheel and tire combo I want to run. I've got the old Dana 44 with 4.10s and a truetrac to put back in the Wagoneer. It's a bit of swapping around but it'll work out pretty well because I wasn't digging that spool for the Wagoneer.

As far as the AMC power, you don't even need to worry about that!


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how does that Indy intake compare to the Edelbrock Air-Gap manifold?

I haven't run the Indy yet but I have run the Edelbrock air gap for quite a while with a carburetor. It's really cold blooded but once it's up to temp it's all good. I expect the Indy would be similarly cold blooded with a carb. The Indy is obviously a single plane vs the dual plane Edelbrock. The Indy has a lot bigger runners. Also, the Indy doesn't have things like an oil fill tube, PCV, throttle bracket mounts, etc.

The allure of the Indy (to me) is for multi-port fuel injection. For MPI you've got to have a single plane so it's either the Indy or the Torker. Or buy the Edelbrock kit for big $$. I've played with the Edelbrock kit before and it's an AWESOME setup (very impressed with it) but I wanted to try a Megasquirt ECU this time because of how customizable it is. I've got some 80 lb/hr injectors, an 80mm throttle body & elbow, fuel rails, etc on the way to finish it up.
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Old 10-31-2010, 07:26 PM
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what did you use for your body mounts?
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what did you use for your body mounts?

The actual frame mounts are just rectangle tube with a 45 degree cut on the end and a hole bored for the body bushings. I can't remember the tubing size off the top of my head, I think it was 3x4? I used a polyurethane bushing kit for a FSJ wagon. It comes with 12 bushings (tops and bottoms), I used 8 for the main body. Two of the extras are supposed to go under the front core support and the other two I assume slide in under the cargo floor. I'm not using either because I'm building a lift-off front end and won't be putting a ton of weight in the cargo area.
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The stock truck 12 bolt is getting the boot and the Wagoneer is going to donate it's rear axle to the build. It's a 35 spline Ford 8.8 with a steel spool, 4.10s, and disc brakes. The width is perfect for the Cherokee with the wheel and tire combo I want to run. I've got the old Dana 44 with 4.10s and a truetrac to put back in the Wagoneer. It's a bit of swapping around but it'll work out pretty well because I wasn't digging that spool for the Wagoneer.

As far as the AMC power, you don't even need to worry about that!




I haven't run the Indy yet but I have run the Edelbrock air gap for quite a while with a carburetor. It's really cold blooded but once it's up to temp it's all good. I expect the Indy would be similarly cold blooded with a carb. The Indy is obviously a single plane vs the dual plane Edelbrock. The Indy has a lot bigger runners. Also, the Indy doesn't have things like an oil fill tube, PCV, throttle bracket mounts, etc.

The allure of the Indy (to me) is for multi-port fuel injection. For MPI you've got to have a single plane so it's either the Indy or the Torker. Or buy the Edelbrock kit for big $$. I've played with the Edelbrock kit before and it's an AWESOME setup (very impressed with it) but I wanted to try a Megasquirt ECU this time because of how customizable it is. I've got some 80 lb/hr injectors, an 80mm throttle body & elbow, fuel rails, etc on the way to finish it up.





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Old 11-01-2010, 06:43 AM
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I can't tell how it warms my heart to see a chevy get butched for 401 transplant to kick butt on other chevys
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:54 AM
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I can't tell how it warms my heart to see a chevy get butched for 401 transplant to kick butt on other chevys

The other cool part is that the chevy body ended up on a Dodge chassis and drivetrain.
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This has to be the first GM frame swap, but still-retaining-the-AMC-powerplant that I've ever seen...gotta love that.

Good looking work! Looking forward to seeing the finished product!
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:55 PM
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Some pictures of the intake with throttle body. I've still got to drill the injector bosses and make fuel rails but it just looked too cool not to post.


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The custom oil pan


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That intake set-up looks pretty tall. I know the Indy intake is a lot taller than stock, and it looks like the elbow would be taller that a stock air cleaner assembly. I guess you get a little relief from having a horizontal TB instead of a carb-like vertical one. Are you going with a custom hood or installing a cowl scoop?

I love your concept, but I come from a Mopar background and have been conditioned to shun excessive sheet metal or frame modification.
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:18 PM
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That intake set-up looks pretty tall. I know the Indy intake is a lot taller than stock, and it looks like the elbow would be taller that a stock air cleaner assembly. I guess you get a little relief from having a horizontal TB instead of a carb-like vertical one. Are you going with a custom hood or installing a cowl scoop?

I love your concept, but I come from a Mopar background and have been conditioned to shun excessive sheet metal or frame modification.

Yeah, the intake is way taller than I had envisioned it. Should have no problem fitting it under the hood, the engine sits a lot lower in the C10 frame since it doesn't have to clear the front drivetrain. I've got a steel cowl hood and plenty of good stock hoods. I'll see what one works better and pull a fiberglass copy off of it.

I hear you on the sheet metal and frame mods, that's why I'm building this on instead of cutting up the Wagoneer.
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Right on. Didn't even consider the extra space UNDER the engine you get without that big honkin' Dana in the way.
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Well..what transmission are you using? A 2wd AMC one? I haven't started looking yet, but am interested in what the best 2wd one will bolt to a 401.
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