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Old 01-06-2004, 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by racer32:
is it absolutely neccessary to get a drop pitman arm with a 4" lift?
NO!

I run 4" Superstiff springs with no DPA and I have no bump steer.

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It is quite possible (likely) that the reason that I have no bumpsteer is somewhat related to the Superlift "springs." You see, the concept of bumpsteer is that when the vehicle hits a bump, it compresses the suspension and changes the effective length of the draglink. However, seeing as I have yet to hit a bump that could compress those monster, POS, superthick leaves Superlift calls "springs," I have no problem with bumpsteer. My advice to those considering Superlift "springs" -> install a piece of 4x6 steel in place of your springs. It will give you the same ride quality and will be cheaper

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Ryan, this is not subjective. When a person has been the four wheel drive industry as long as I have things start to becoming fact rather than opinion.
Brian - I think you may be coming across a little bit condescendingly here. I don't own BJ's springs and I am a far cry from the point where I would call them (or any other springs) the best springs out there, HOWEVER, your opinion, is not fact. No matter how long you have been in the industry.
Welcome to the board, and I hope you decide to stay and contribute to this awesome forum, but you may find the waters here a smidge more accomodating if you can manage to tone it down a hair. Even your signature line is a bit arrogant...to say you are the leader in FSJs, when I for one have never even heard of you...just my $.02


PS to Racer32 - feel free to come test drive my rig to see how you like driving with a 4" and no DPA.
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Old 01-06-2004, 02:29 PM
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Lets tone down the reteric (sp?) and get back to the comparisons on a technical level or I will close this thread. I would like to place this in the archives but don't want a pissing match between businesses. OKAY, Thank you for your support.
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Old 01-06-2004, 02:55 PM
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I have the BDS kit on my Wag and love it. Good on the street and pretty good flex. Highly recommend BDS.
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Old 01-07-2004, 12:47 AM
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Every time i have ever used BDS springs ive bent them EVERY TIME!! I am NOT HAPPY WITH BDS. I used to get prototypes from them (cj 6") And they have always bent.(maybe i wheel too hard) Ive seen good and bad come from the factory even with material certifications, so most posts here are reflrctive opinions and not fact in my eyes, We could tally up the amount of customers who have been happy with their lift from each manufacturer and we would find that the longest running would have the most, on the other side of teh coin we could tally up all the guys who were unhappy with their lift and we would find the longest one out there would probly have the most...anyway you stack it it will be the bj's kit for me..I havent heard a gripe about them yet
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Old 01-07-2004, 03:02 AM
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i wished i could find a rear spring that dont bend :/
i have bent rough country,and rancho springs,not to mention stock!!!!
i am wondering if some one could make a military wrap spring that dont bend or break????? that way it has two main springs to work with,but allow some flex!
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Old 01-07-2004, 03:17 AM
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i wished i could find a rear spring that dont bend :/
i have bent rough country,and rancho springs,not to mention stock!!!!
i am wondering if some one could make a military wrap spring that dont bend or break????? that way it has two main springs to work with,but allow some flex!
I agree. Some military wrap spring for our rigs would rock! Unfortunately, being the cheap bastich I am, I wouldn't be able to afford them, but if one of the manufacturers on the forum did make some, I hope that enough of you hardcore guys and gals would buy enough of them to bring the cost down in to my budget.
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Old 01-07-2004, 04:14 AM
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OK I will assist in solving the arguement. Each company send me a set of their lift kits, as complete as they would be if bought by someone off the street. I will install each on a vehilce, ride around and test them. Them I will provide a full write up on the kits. For my trouble and time solving this situation the kits become mune to dispose of as I see fit Hows that? So who's first...I'm waiting LOL
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Old 01-07-2004, 06:12 AM
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nice idea i am second in line behind merc
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Old 01-07-2004, 06:55 AM
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Hey now, I started this thread. I should be first.
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Old 01-07-2004, 07:00 AM
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no way i am going to be third on this one i was second out of all fairness merc should be third. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-07-2004, 10:34 AM
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It was my idea and besides being a trained investigator and extensive report writing skills and being completly impartial who better LOL
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Old 01-07-2004, 11:40 AM
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I have the Rusty's 4" lift and 35" Pro-Comp X'Terrains but I also have a W/T Cherokee, 1978, and 1 1/2: blocks on the rear and Revolvers in the front. I did have to trim the wheel wells anyway. I ramp a 756 on a 20 degree ramp though. If you have a Narrow Track you have your work cut out to clear 35's with only 4" of lift.

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Old 01-15-2004, 03:04 PM
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i think we should all suport bjs and the companys that sell more fsj products
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Old 01-15-2004, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
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...to say you are the leader in FSJs, when I for one have never even heard of you...just my $.02
that's what i was thinkin...

he does seem to have a little "tude" in his text too....
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Old 01-15-2004, 03:58 PM
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I recently got the skyjacker system with the 4 leaf springs, 4 shocks, and accessories for around $950 at 4 wheel parts, did not have to pay shipping since the store was near by.

They botched up my order three times but that is an other story.

I got skyjacker for their reputation in these archives and they do have a great customer relationship.

Otherwise my vote is for bj's based on their commitment to our fsjs. them is good people. Very kind and knowledgable and dont forget those dozer bumpers man!!

Now that my lift is installed I wonder if one would notice much difference between each kit?

Even Skyjacker can be quite bouncy if not installed right, so many variables, I am still trying to get mine worked out.
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Old 01-16-2004, 01:49 AM
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Racer 32,
I'm sorry you have never herd about us, and for sounding like I have attitude. Perhaps my writing ability is not at the caliber everyone eles is at. My intention was only to lay information out on the table. Is there someting you would like to know about my self and/or the Outback Jeep staff.

For those comparing prices, the BDS 4" full spring kit is cheeper than the Skyjacker price mentioned above.

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Old 01-16-2004, 02:11 AM
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So... I take it nobody has tried my idea of using stock Comanche MJ leaves on the rear of their Jeep yet?
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:48 AM
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support your local community. hey outback got a buy page up yet?
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Old 01-16-2004, 05:14 AM
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i just installed bjs 4 inch on mine in case anyone wants to drive it around and see if they like it let me know
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