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Old 05-03-2022, 09:17 AM
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great news on the engine,.....sounds like a nice find for you.
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Old 07-08-2022, 03:17 PM
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The new to me engine is still in the garage. I have been tinkering with other parts of the jeep. I replaced the tailgate side channel gaskets. One side did not have any gasket, and the other side was hard as a rock.

I found that the rear window lift channel is loose on the ends, but solid in the center.

Would a bike inner tube be a good replacement for that channel gasket? any thoughts? I have used the one BJ's sell but it seemed too thick.

I cleaned out some more built up dirt and debris out of the tailgate.

I started folding and separating the floor pan channel at the inside door seam. Tedious and loud with a hammer and flat blade.

I don't have an air chisel, but do have a bulldog rotary hammer that would do the same thing with a good chisel bit.


It's nice to get some work done on it with the great weather we have had in the PNW.

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Old 07-11-2022, 07:35 PM
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I tried the BJs one and it did not work for me either. Than babywag recommended urethane glass adhesive. I bought beta seal from Dupont on Amazon and it worked REALLY well. Put a glob down the center of the channel and insert the window. Done!

Btw, it is suuuper thick and tough to use but works really good.
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Old 07-13-2022, 02:01 PM
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I tried the BJs one and it did not work for me either. Than babywag recommended urethane glass adhesive. I bought beta seal from Dupont on Amazon and it worked REALLY well. Put a glob down the center of the channel and insert the window. Done!

Btw, it is suuuper thick and tough to use but works really good.


I'll do this. Thank you.
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Old 08-13-2022, 10:04 PM
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A little progress today. I pulled the rear window and riveted the new felts in the gate side channels, removed the glass from the lift channel.... got that scraped out and cleaned up, next was to prime and paint it. I used the stuff Rang suggested to reinstall glass in the channel, adjusted the bottom stop, I also added a new rubber pad to the bare stop. a simple chunk of 7/8" heater hose.

I Decided to put on the slot mags, I need to clean them up a bit.
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Old 08-14-2022, 11:56 AM
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Looking good
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Old 08-15-2022, 01:51 PM
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Awesome! You getting closet to cruising this guy?
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Old 08-15-2022, 05:15 PM
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Awesome! You getting closet to cruising this guy?


I am actually! the tires are 31's. So they will work better with the factory gearing. I changed my Clutch linkage. It was rubbing on the bell housing bracket. I pumped grease into all of my zerks. replaced the outer window to door seals. My 208 tail housing needs to come off for a new gasket, and I have the floor pan on the pass side.

I just wish I had a shop to work in because of the noise and sparks from grinding. Think close neighbors and very dry vegetation! Not a good combo.

I know the P.O. Al says it's an "S" Model. I'm wondering because of the upper blacked out section and the interior it came with. I really like the 81 chief stripe kit. but I only want to put it on if it really is a chief, which I'm 99.9% sure it is based on the 1981 factory brochures I have. My Dads "S" had white upper body color. Other "S" models have been white or body color in that area.

It also seems like all chiefs I've seen have had the upper black done. Any thoughts or input?
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Old 08-15-2022, 09:30 PM
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Looking good


Thank you! I really like it. Someday it will be a reliable driver.

It's funny how I've changed over the years. 30 years ago. I drove my beater 72 Chevelle from Oregon to California on big old slots with bias ply on the rear and sketchy radials on the front. I had to stop at every rest area to check the oil and used a flash light to see the speedometer. Made it to Vallejo. no problem. This one I just don't feel the same way about, and it is 1000% better in every way. Weird. Right?
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:05 PM
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Transfer case tail housing leak checked off the list.


[url=https://ibb.co/3Y3T7Tx][/url.




. Not much of a gasket.


. Some permatex. I bought the 208 gasket set. and it did not come with the right gasket. It at least had the 2 seals.



I'll let the permatex set for a bit now. I didn't bother to clean it up much because its really greasy under there anyway.

It's good to remove from this the list.
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Old 08-18-2022, 08:29 PM
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I took it for a spin today. I feel the mechanical is pretty good now and it's time to get serious on the inside. It's so loud inside. I really like the builds that are going and have gone on. So much quality info being shared. Thanks guys and gals!

Mine is taking super long and is within my budget, but dang.... it's embarrassing comparing it to others, they are sooooo. nice.


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Old 08-19-2022, 11:19 AM
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It really does look nice. Don't compare to other builds, compare to when you got it. You have a good running/driving truck now. It may not be as fast as some other builds but you are not building it for getting done right away, you are building it because its fun to build. If it take 3 years, that's 3 years of fun. You have a job and midgets you are taking care of, that takes time, too. Just enjoy the work! We love the updates when they come and we are learning from you, too!
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Old 08-19-2022, 09:58 PM
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It really does look nice. Don't compare to other builds, compare to when you got it. You have a good running/driving truck now. It may not be as fast as some other builds but you are not building it for getting done right away, you are building it because its fun to build. If it take 3 years, that's 3 years of fun. You have a job and midgets you are taking care of, that takes time, too. Just enjoy the work! We love the updates when they come and we are learning from you, too!


Thanks Rang, I just wish the metal work was finished. Now I think there may be more.

I think it was hit hard on the passenger side. I'll take some pics of what I found when I was picking out seam sealer.
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Old 08-20-2022, 05:54 AM
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I took it for a spin today. I feel the mechanical is pretty good now and it's time to get serious on the inside. It's so loud inside. I really like the builds that are going and have gone on. So much quality info being shared. Thanks guys and gals!

Mine is taking super long and is within my budget, but dang.... it's embarrassing comparing it to others, they are sooooo. nice.



Long? Nah. It looks to be coming along. I have been "working" on mine for 7 years now . . .

You, at least, are WORKING on it and making progress! I think it looks good !

As for "loud".. those tires are not helping at all... and these things are like rolling drums! Mine was/is loud as hell too... Might be a thing with these rigs.
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Old 08-21-2022, 08:29 PM
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Long? Nah. It looks to be coming along. I have been "working" on mine for 7 years now . . .

You, at least, are WORKING on it and making progress! I think it looks good !

As for "loud".. those tires are not helping at all... and these things are like rolling drums! Mine was/is loud as hell too... Might be a thing with these rigs.
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Thank you. The tires are part of the problem. Not having an once of insulation doesn't help either.
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Old 08-21-2022, 08:47 PM
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Today I pulled out the remaining seats and scrubbed down the inside with simple green. It's time to get serious on the patch panels. and rust proofing. Some before pics of the various condition of the metal and weird tears and gaps.




Drivers floor. ripped metal where inner seat bracket mounts


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Old 08-21-2022, 08:48 PM
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Thank you. The tires are part of the problem. Not having an once of insulation doesn't help either.

Too bad you are in OR ..
I am ditching my rims and tires.. The price would be right !!
Probably not the best for road noise, but better than what you have I suspect.

I am going with BFG AT this time. More of a "road tire"
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Old 08-21-2022, 10:26 PM
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Too bad you are in OR ..
I am ditching my rims and tires.. The price would be right !!
Probably not the best for road noise, but better than what you have I suspect.

I am going with BFG AT this time. More of a "road tire"

Very Generous. Thanks. I have brand new 33" toyo MTR's on new 15x10's. I'm sure they will make it back on the jeep at some point.

I took them off to put the 31's on because of the 3:31/ T-18 4spd combo plus I love the look of slots on these Jeeps.
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:29 PM
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78 WIDETRAC , your Jeep is looking very cool the way it is!
Maybe it's not at show condition but it tells a story of adventures with the dents and scrapings it has!
And that makes it a one of it's kind.

May i ask what kind of wheel nuts do you use for the slot wheels?
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Old 08-22-2022, 09:28 PM
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78 WIDETRAC , your Jeep is looking very cool the way it is!
Maybe it's not at show condition but it tells a story of adventures with the dents and scrapings it has!
And that makes it a one of it's kind.

May i ask what kind of wheel nuts do you use for the slot wheels?


Thank you Heep J4000.

It has been on adventures before me. I want a reliable, no inside holes Jeep. I use 7/16" 3/4 shank lug nits with washers for the wheels.
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