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Old 05-23-2020, 09:07 AM
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That intake looks nice. I thought for sure you were gonna put a supercharger on it though. I'm sure someone makes adapters.



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Old 05-23-2020, 09:09 PM
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That intake looks nice. I thought for sure you were gonna put a supercharger on it though. I'm sure someone makes adapters.



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Nope.. I will be happy with the stock power. it's a Jeep and tow rig.
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Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:17 PM
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Not so fun job today ...

Today was a project I have been avoiding for some time. Removed the rear Aux tank from the spare area. I have hated this since I bought the Jeep 5 years ago.
Of course, the gauge said it was at 1/8 of a tank or less ... NOPE. Half full at least. HEAVY !

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Going down... and out !

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Anybody want a Aux tank set up with the dash switch, wiring and fuel valve? The price will be right! Buy now and it comes with a half tank of fuel !! LOL

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1979 Chero: "Madness" [Sold]
1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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Old 05-23-2020, 09:24 PM
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More fun and games . . .

After removing the tank, I installed the rear shocks.. I didn't know the fuel fill metal tube attached to the shock bolt? Hmm, is that normal? Not what is shown in my 77 manual.

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And discovered this .. a LOT of rust internal to the fill tube. How does one clean that out? I don't want this crap in my freshly cleaned tank, lines, filter, etc...

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1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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Old 05-23-2020, 09:30 PM
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Sweet Sounds Delivered today!

The muffler showed up today. I have always been happy with the Borla exhaust sound. throaty, but not loud. 2 1/2" pipe - Left inlet, center exit

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Now to find a good custom exhaust shop to fab up my idea of routing.. which is not the normal of course.

I took this cool pic from the rear tank area while doing the shocks... You can clearly see the Dana 300 and it's clocked position here. That's the rear axle yoke in the foreground.

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Speaking of t-case.. this is a center output t-case with an offset axle. [ Angles down, AND to the pass side. ]
Opinions on the multiple angle? Will this require a Carden joint?

[IMG][/IMG]
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1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:48 PM
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And the last of today's fun.. Worked on the Dana 300 shifter. I already had to modify the cross pin that the shift rod rides on, to make it fit with the new trans and clocking position.

Today I removed the trans pan cover and took a look see at what I am facing...
This is looking down onto the trans/t-case shifter from the pass side.

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The shifter does not line up with the small opening at all, but it seems to fit in the larger opening. this is a CJ shift rod btw. Have the carpet peeled back to see what's going on. It seems to shift freely here? Can't be this easy ...

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So I slit the carpet and laid it back down. From the driver seat, it is easy to reach and shifts well up and down. Hmmm ??

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Checked the full range of motion up and down... This is the full forward "Low Range" position and it clears the glovebox! Great!
Seems all I have to do now is buy a CJ Dana 300 shift boot and adapt it to the trans tunnel. Sweet.

Small victory, but I'll take it !!

[IMG][/IMG]
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1979 Chero: "Madness" [Sold]
1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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Old 05-25-2020, 06:54 PM
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Fuel Tank Woes ...

I have had ongoing issues filling my fuel tank since day one.. this has been very irritating!
Now that I am redoing the tank, figured it was time to remove and redo ALL the related fill lines... Worth a try I guess.

I am NOT OCD … I am NOT OCD .. as I waste time cleaning up the mounting bolts and painted them black, polished up the fuel cap, rebuilt the fuel cap, and then cleaned up and polished the inlet mount.... Here are the parts laid out.

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The plasctic fill neck was in decent shape.. but the new hose was in NO WAY fitting over it? Hmm . . . Sooo.. into the kitchen I go.
Boiled the end of the hose, and then, when it was VERY hot [should've worn gloves!], struggled to wiggle it onto the larger diameter plastic neck. Two tries and I was able to get it on... Added a clamp, but really don't need it!

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I also rebuilt the fill cap - the old one was falling apart. Found a new cap and stole the bottom parts. This lined right up in the old cap. Screwed it together and it's like new.

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Of course, the inlet area was filthy.. so HAD to clean that up too... Before and after.

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[IMG]http://[/IMG]

Eventually it all led to this... all installed in the rear fender. Note: There is a tab up behind the quarter panel to hold the vent hose up. you can't see it, but it's there !
Now I just have to figure out how to clean out that fill tube... After that, I will be able to install the reworked fuel tank and plumb the fuel lines....

[IMG][/IMG]
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1979 Chero: "Madness" [Sold]
1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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Old 05-26-2020, 12:39 AM
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Nice work. All those pieces are the same pieces I need but can't find. Just the metal fill neck the gas cap attaches to would be nice but can't seem to find those either. Suggestions? How are you going to fill that extra hole in the quarter panel?
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Old 05-26-2020, 11:43 AM
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I gotta ask. Those aren't radiator hoses, right?

And where'd you get them?
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:35 PM
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I gotta ask. Those aren't radiator hoses, right?

And where'd you get them?

No, no.. that would be bad! LOL

BJs Off Road has all the required hoses that I needed.
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1979 Chero: "Madness" [Sold]
1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:22 PM
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Today I checked driveline angles... F/R propshafts, engine, etc. They look pretty good.

Measured up the required rear prop. I am going to have a shop modify the old one. Looks like it needs to be about 2" longer, but I will let them decide.

Also need to order a front yoke for the Dana 300 that will accept the Q-Trac CV joint. Lucky as the length is correct...

Called and getting scheduled at the exhaust shop .. it's going to be a couple of weeks.

Wiring/ECU update.. Swaptime says it should be completed this week. Maybe I'll get it back next week?

Also called the place that cleaned and fixed up my tank - they will do the rusty fuel fill tube. just have to drive up there and drop it off...

I am estimating another 6 weeks before a drive. Maybe I'm being optimistic ?? lol
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1979 Chero: "Madness" [Sold]
1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280
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Old 05-29-2020, 09:03 PM
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Nice work. All those pieces are the same pieces I need but can't find. Just the metal fill neck the gas cap attaches to would be nice but can't seem to find those either. Suggestions? How are you going to fill that extra hole in the quarter panel?

The small metal neck that accepts the rubber filler part? OR are you looking for the metal one that has the 2 metal fill and vent line on it? I have one of those if you need
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1979 Chero: "Madness" [Sold]
1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280
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Old 05-29-2020, 09:29 PM
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6L80e Column Shift ?

In todays news . . . Worked on setting up the stock column shift to work the 6L80e.
Doing some research, I found a "Universal" kit from Lokar that should work? It's kit 1809.

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The kit is decent - BUT, you will have to play around with it a LOT.
It incorporates a ball link joint at both ends... and a splined shaft and adjustable shift arm for the trans end. You can adjust the clocked position and length of the arm.
It's a bit of an Erector Set, so put it together on the bench first to understand the system.

Here is the lower end: This is looking UP from the bottom on driver side
NOTE the bends in the rod. More on that later.

[IMG][/IMG]


Here is the top end that attaches to the column shift arm. Note, the kit comes with nice Delron inserts to capture the stock column opening very well...
BUT - it's too close to my exhaust... [ Delron is good to 350 F, so it would likely melt ].

Hmm, what to do? A visit to the hardware store was in order.. Picked up some large and small washers to replace the Delron material. These wont melt!
Here's the top end of the linkage on the original column pivot arm:

[IMG][/IMG]


Here's a shot of the linkage after install.
Note, the provided stainless rod is very hard to bend. I strongly suggest getting a soft smaller rod and use that to develop a templet.
Then bend the stainless rod to match. At some point, you have to cut the rod to length. Measure, measure, measure !

[IMG][/IMG]

The trans cooler lines, down by the shift arm, get in the way pretty quickly here, especially in Park - so be wary of that.
I plan to retain the 2 upstream catalyst convertors - So I had to bend the linkage up higher to clear the cat when installed.

After MUCH fiddling, I was able to get the trans throws matched to the indicated position VERY closely. I am pretty happy with that!

I declare a small victory!

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1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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Old 05-30-2020, 06:07 AM
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Love that it will work off the column shift (no column shift emoji)
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The small metal neck that accepts the rubber filler part? OR are you looking for the metal one that has the 2 metal fill and vent line on it? I have one of those if you need




All the pieces circled, but mostly the piece in red. You'd think you can find a universal one somewhere but haven't found it yet. If I get that piece, I can make the rest from steel tubing.



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Nice work on the column shift too! Not a huge fan of Lokar stuff but if you got it to work, cool.
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OK .. the blue part. That's 2 pcs.. the upper is a plastic part that is original to the Jeep. the lower hose is from BJs Off Road.

I have a metal filler, but its for a later Jeep. However, you could probably cut the end off and lake the small metal pc. I will dig it out and send a pic.

Anything for you Brad . . .
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1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
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Old 05-31-2020, 09:06 AM
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Fuel Tank Prep ...

Today got the tank ready to install.
Thanks to my buddy who lent me a tube bender kit. Never used one before...
Note the nylon line, and 10 micron fuel filter.

[IMG][/IMG]

Have to go up in fuel line size... New 3/8" line is the plan.
Here's the old line in place. Going to use the same basic routing as it's pretty protected and there are bend over tabs to hold it in place.

[IMG][/IMG]

New line bent up. This steel line is very hard to straighten and then bend! Adding a bubble at the end to hold the hose was fun too.

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The new line at the pump end. Another fun part was the new fill hose going into the tank. It was very hard to get over the tank. Installed it hoping it will expand and take a set so I can reinstall it in the Jeep.

Also note, I got back the long metal fill pipe. The gas tank place cleaned it out and coated that inside as well. Just couldn't have rust going into the all new fuel system. DI engines tolerate NO dirt.

Ever wonder why these have issues filling? Look at that horizontal run.. That does not include the vertical drop portion already installed on the rear fill port.

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1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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Slow day at the ranch . . Sundays require family time and yard work.

Finished up all the fuel module install. First time I actually tightened it down so the foam is now sealed up and tightened down.

Installed the new fuel line and secured it to the tank.

Then installed the outlet barb and vent plug so connections can be finalized.

Added the line that connects the new 3/8" fuel line to the pump module. All clamped up and ready to go.

Out come the wiring tools... Wired up the chassis ground and relay power line that will be added into the original wire loom.

[IMG][/IMG]

Hoped to install the tank today, but other matters took precedent. Oh well, tomorrow it is! Looking forward to getting this all buttoned up.
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1979 Chero: "Madness" [Sold]
1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:18 PM
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Fuel tank is in . . .

Fuel tank prep all done.. time to install it in the Jeep

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The fill pipe in vehicle.. "almost" lines up with the hole.. no adjusting it .. tried.

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A view of the fill pipe's other end... This is from the fill port on the driver side. Again a tight fit. All the rubber is now new.

[IMG][/IMG]

Installing the new fill line from BJs. Strongly suggest letting it sit overnight and expand out before attempting to slide it in in vehicle. The new hoses are very tight.. use WD-40.
It's quite a juggling act to hold the tank up, wiggle the lines on, and NOT drop it on your face. Ask me how I know. I am a one man show here . . .

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Then there's the vent line too.. This is a view from the driver tire.. Note there is a lot of room above the tank for the fuel pump module. Made attaching the wiring a lot easier as well.

[IMG][/IMG]

And it's in ! The wires are for grounding the tank so sending unit works, and fuel pump ground as well.

[IMG][/IMG]

The final touch .. added the 5 micron fuel filter - still waiting on the mount, but wanted to get it installed.

[IMG][/IMG]

Am I including too many details? IDK.
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1979 Chero: "Madness" [Sold]
1985 CJ : Renegade -locked and loaded
2001 XJ : Driver 2016 JK 2 door

'Da Chief here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...ighlight=chief

Round 2- LT Swap: 'Da Chief:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=188457

"Madness" build here:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=89280

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