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Old 09-04-2013, 04:29 PM
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Very cool 70's Wagoneer pictures

While doing some surfing today I came across an overseas wagonmasters or something? http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/carlist.htm

Through a little digging I was able to pull up some of the galleries, lots of very nice/interesting AMC-era rigs. You can find a lot of nice pictures of Grand Wagoneers but detail shots of 70's models seem to be very uncommon. Figured I would pass them along so that everyone could enjoy. They're sorted by year.

http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/stock...7wagoneer.html
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...erwagoneer.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/stock...70wagoneer.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...72wagoneer.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/stock...wagoneer2.html
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/stock...73wagoneer.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...74wagoneer.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/stock...5wagoneer.html
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/stock...76wagoneer.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...oneer/1976.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...6wagoneer3.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...oneer/1977.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...7wagoneer2.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...7wagoneer3.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...7wagoneer4.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...oneer/1978.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...neer2/1978.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...8wagoneer3.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...81wagoneer.htm
http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/stock...dwagoneer.html
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:19 PM
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Makes me wonder if its a listing of stolen rigs that ended up in the euro block

Iv always thought that no matter what part of the world ... you had to have some sort of license plate ...
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:44 PM
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Jeez....the condition of those things is making me seriously jealous.

Obviously most of them have been repainted and had some interior work done, but the trim and details still shows it's age.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:34 PM
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Nice Wags

Everyone of those Wags are super nice !
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:28 AM
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Thanks ghinmi !
Doesn't seem to be in Europe, looks like actually a Japanese cars seller ("buddy-auto")
Some are super nice and photos are taken by a pro..
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:31 PM
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That blue '72 was sweet!
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:52 PM
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Is the 4WD shifter saposed to be leaning that far over on that blue 72?
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:38 PM
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This angers me, in a weird way. Last year or so, I noticed tons of foreign sites with FSJs popping up on Google. Globalization at its finest, I guess? Okay, maybe I am exaggerating a bit, but...are they buying them all up from the USA, or are they finding and restoring examples in their own countries?

I don't get it - why are the REAL vintage FSJs popping up everywhere BUT North America? Sure, we have WagonMaster and that other guy, but the majority of their pristine rigs are 1980+ Grand Wagoneers.

I'd really like to know what is driving this trend...very odd times. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that SOMEONE somewhere in the world shares the same love for FSJs that we have, and is able to collect or restore them, but still, seeing all these pristine foreign examples of old American Iron just rubs me the wrong way for some reason.

Anyway, thanks for sharing Ghinmi, the early and mid '70s FSJs are far and away my favorite. You just can't beat the color availability, color combos, and grill styles IMHO.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:47 PM
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Oh and to further illustrate my point (and prove me wrong that '74 Cherokees are kind of rare) - I was just checking to see if there were any '74s for sale online, and found this a few miles from my city.

Yes, this is what we get.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv...033942550.html









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Old 09-08-2013, 12:35 AM
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IS that a Zender kit for a FSJ?

Or did someone take an E30 kit and tack it on????
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:24 AM
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I've noticed the trend too, the 70's rigs don't seem to get preserved like the late model rigs do. What would be a great restoration candidate gets hacked up and destroyed over a few years, then the owner moves on to the next one. There just doesn't seem to be a market for nice 70's rigs so they don't get saved. I found a bunch of really nice ones for very reasonable $$ when I was looking but couldn't bring myself to mess up a nice original one.

I figure if the guys overseas can appreciate them, at least someone is keeping them alive. And I sure do appreciate their pictures.

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This angers me, in a weird way. Last year or so, I noticed tons of foreign sites with FSJs popping up on Google. Globalization at its finest, I guess? Okay, maybe I am exaggerating a bit, but...are they buying them all up from the USA, or are they finding and restoring examples in their own countries?

I don't get it - why are the REAL vintage FSJs popping up everywhere BUT North America? Sure, we have WagonMaster and that other guy, but the majority of their pristine rigs are 1980+ Grand Wagoneers.

I'd really like to know what is driving this trend...very odd times. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that SOMEONE somewhere in the world shares the same love for FSJs that we have, and is able to collect or restore them, but still, seeing all these pristine foreign examples of old American Iron just rubs me the wrong way for some reason.

Anyway, thanks for sharing Ghinmi, the early and mid '70s FSJs are far and away my favorite. You just can't beat the color availability, color combos, and grill styles IMHO.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:02 AM
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A lot of cool stuff! I know them because a guy that I know sold to them his SJ Cherokee. They import US cars, parts and clothing in Japan, and resell it. They are also specialized on work FSJ.
Probably the normal people outside the FSJ or Jeep website, when think of a Wagoneer think a the late models, Grand Wagoneer, the woody, the kind of most wanted or famous. The same happen with other Jeep, if you talk about J-Trunck the people think/know only about Honchos... CJ, they think only about the Golden Eagle...
This also changed little bit compared to 5/10 years ago, when if you had a M-715 for them was the ugliest Jeep ever made, and less wanted, now all the people want them.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:50 AM
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How much would a 63 wagoneer bring these days ... restored ..
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Old 09-08-2013, 11:40 AM
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http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/stock...dwagoneer.html

thats a strange one!

401 in original orange with manual windows and a bench seat

http://www.lucent-jp.com/buddy/custo...6wagoneer3.htm
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:14 AM
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@Ghinmi and PlasticBoob : i can speak only for Europe, i don't know for other countries oversea : in my opinion the real FSJ' amateurs or admirers in Europe are the Dutch and after the Italians, very few people from other parts of Europe import FSJs, they import rather muscle cars, corvette or mustangs. I understand your frustration, it's too bad that only the Grand Wagoneers are really sought after in your country, it's a part of American history which is vanishing. By the way, i prefer the earlier FSJs.
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"that other guy"

Thank you for this collection, I love the look of the seventies wagoneers so much, I am de wooding my 89, and going chrome...

I love the comment about the wagonmaster and "that other guy"...

I think we all know who he is, but who knows his name?... He needs a cool name too, You can't beat a name like wagonmaster, but maybe he could be the "VagenMeister", or "The Wood King,"

How about "The Wagon Chief!"



The patron saint of full size jeeps specializing in wagoneers AND Cherokees!

Now there's a first!



any other ideas to help him out?

Maybe we could start a charity event:

Help find "that other guy" a name

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Thank you for this collection, I love the look of the seventies wagoneers so much, I am de wooding my 89, and going chrome...

I love the comment about the wagonmaster and "that other guy"...

I think we all know who he is, but who knows his name?... He needs a cool name too, You can't beat a name like wagonmaster, but maybe he could be the "VagenMeister", or "The Wood King,"

How about "The Wagon Chief!"

The patron saint of full size jeeps specializing in wagoneers AND Cherokees!

Now there's a first!



any other ideas to help him out?

Maybe we could start a charity event:

Help find "that other guy" a name

ROFL! I would LOVE to see an arch-rival with a catchy name rise up to challenge The WagonMaster. Oh man, can you imagine them going at it in a parts yard, one wielding a double-cardan driveshaft, and the other a blunt, thick roll of fake wood?



I'm not trying to insult 'the other guy,' but I just honestly forgot his name and the name of his business.
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:41 AM
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Thanks for the post.
Indeed a lot of work was done to these, some still have the OEM window wipes, or the seat fabric which is impressive, most of my fabric was too stained to be salvaged or the springs were broken under my heavy weight, the vinyl on the bench seat cracked a long time ago.

The restorer went a bit heavy with the engine bay paint, the inner fender are black along with the valence, radiator surround and the hood braces and hinges, the insulation is gone in all of these.... too dirty for clean loving japanese people.

The door panel show some very creative work for the tweeter or the wood panel around the armrest. I have never seems a wood trim for the door arm rest, usually stainless steel. Some of the custom seat fabric are very imaginative and correspond to the color taste of the period or what could have been done.

A very good trip back to the past. Need to find the 74 pict after it was bought in 83... slides and B&W prints....
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ROFL! I would LOVE to see an arch-rival with a catchy name rise up to challenge The WagonMaster. Oh man, can you imagine them going at it in a parts yard, one wielding a double-cardan driveshaft, and the other a blunt, thick roll of fake wood?



I'm not trying to insult 'the other guy,' but I just honestly forgot his name and the name of his business.

Love it, LMAO... love the photo and the idea of a roll of fake wood as a blunt intrument..."Bring It"
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Ghinmi- thanks for sharing those pics

Ghinmi-

Thanks for sharing those pics. Some really neat rides. Yep, for me, the 63-65's are tops, followed by 66-72, then 73 to....whatever the last pre-GW rig was (83??). GW's don't do much for me, but try to keep reminding myself a Wag lurks under the yuppie suit.

No clue why the woods are primo $$$$ here. If cash didn't matter, a big metal building stuffed with early Wags would be pretty neat.

Thanks again.
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