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Old 09-05-2013, 02:01 PM
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Thumbs up Four-door J-Trucks, Let's See Them!

I know a couple folks here have made them out of stretching their J-20 frames and grafting a truck cab w/ a Wagoneer body to produce a homemade four-door. I lust after this, badly.

One guy here on IFSJA made one out of a J-20 and used the full 8' bed. I've looked and can't find the original build thread now. I think it either started or ended up being green and white? He swapped in Ford axles, I'll keep my stock J-20's.

This guy the Facebooks suggested today has done my idea of using a J-10 6' bed because a "short" four-door J-truck will be long enough as it is!!! I'll stick w/ my slightly warmed over 360 but wouldn't rule out a Cummins 4bt after I retire. Which is probably when I would be able to do mine anyways.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/4493...1835978422558/

Anyways, if you've built one or have any links or pics of any four-door J-trucks, post them up please! I also saw some Aussie-built ones not too long ago, I don't recall if they were factory built or just a handful of them all in one posting.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:16 PM
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The one I was building went to FSJeeper in Texas, and is now in South Carolina with a new owner working on it. He had pics of it in the garage--grey primer and white front/black cab back.

Was going to stretch a 75 chev 1/2 ton frame 24 inches and use a 7 ft box, turn a 40 gal late 70's suburban tank 180* and use the stock J truck filler location. Tank would have been between the transfer and the rear axle. Axles were already 44 front and 14 bolt rear and 4.10's Rest of the running gear would have been 454,T400, 205. Front wag buckets/armrest/filler, front and rear.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:28 PM
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You can say that the aussie crewcabs were "factory" built, but not in Toledo ! : they were actually built by Jeep Australia, and only a handful were sold. I remember a scaned article about these trucks on jeeptruck.com. I agree the two-tone green and white crewcab truck (j4000?) with a 8' bed posted on ifsja is a great truck

edited : the link for the article http://jeeptruck.com/articles/J20DualCabJA/index.html

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Old 09-06-2013, 07:59 AM
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photoshopped ones also ?
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:36 AM
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No, no photochops please, I don't care how good you are.

Yeah I saw the Aussie flyer too. Great stuff, love the utility tray dump bed. And by golly the Ozzies know how to build a bull bar!

Yep, if it was going to be a family rig (like mine) it would need either a bigger tank or at least a moderate aux. tank. 18 gallons just doesn't get you that far in these things.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:25 PM
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Was just perusing the Aussie flyer again, the prototype is what I plan on doing w/ mine. I don't like the look of the Wagoneer back door on it and not sure what you would do w/ the wasted space of the raised area under the seat. I'm thinking a nice flat tray under another rear bench or set of buckets w/ nifty entertainment console, either way should give plenty of storage under there. Mine would need it anyways since I would have to ditch the bed tool box to make full use of the 6' bed.

Wasn't sure how the front "rear" doors would mount though, not sure if the hinges mate up the same as actual front doors, etc. at the B pillar. I'll have to glance over my Wagoneer at some point.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:07 PM
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I suck at adding pics but about page 11 of my build thread about halfway down is 3 pics of the somewhat finished product.

http://gfsj.org/forums/attachment.ph...6&d=1337451879

I have a set of fiberglass flares for the back, just haven't gotten around to putting them on.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:26 PM
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I suck at adding pics but about page 11 of my build thread about halfway down is 3 pics of the somewhat finished product.

http://gfsj.org/forums/attachment.ph...6&d=1337451879

I have a set of fiberglass flares for the back, just haven't gotten around to putting them on.

Oh my gosh that's pretty much it! I probably won't lift mine, maybe 2", I still need to tow, haul camper, etc. Do you have a link to your build thread please? How did you do the four front doors?
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:51 AM
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Link is in the sig under Buttercup. I used the 4 doors from the waggy donor I had and mated them to the back of the cab I cut out of the j. I the filled the radius section at the bottom by cutting the bottom corner out of the j doors that were pretty beat.

One thing is the j cab seems to be slightly narrower than the waggy where they meet so Ive got a gapwhen the doors close but some larger weatherstripping would solve that. It took me about 9 mos to build with taking 2 week long vacations and holidays to work on it.

I do tow with it, Ive got a receiver hitch I got off a chevy astrovan that was slightly modified and now welded to the frame. I use a drop hitch, it tows well, I need a new radiator though cause it gets warm from the strain of the extra weight.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:56 AM
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One guy here on IFSJA made one out of a J-20 and used the full 8' bed. I've looked and can't find the original build thread now. I think it either started or ended up being green and white? He swapped in Ford axles, I'll keep my stock J-20's.

Here you go...

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=120147
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:03 AM
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IIRC Tiger (something) had one that was was on the cover of JP magazine awhile back, looked good to me but he said he wasn't finished with it.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:33 AM
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Need to use at least the hinge section of the wag rear doors. If you just fill the cutout, the bottom style line is off by about a 1/4 inch. I did a splice of front door outers and some of the inner to get things to line up, but welding it is a bear, wants to warp big time.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:24 AM
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Yep, I'm reading over everyone's build threads and learning a lot. I'm going to be cobbling together two CJ tubs to get my Scrambler together so I'll have at least some practice w/ sheet metal welding by the time I get to mine. The favored method I've seen is to have your stinger in one hand and blow gun in the other from the air compressor. Buzz a spot weld then a good blast of air to immediately cool it. Repeat. Seems to at least help keep the warp under control.

Looks like everyone has used different methods to end up w/ the four door cab; some use a Wagoneer body and weld on the rear of the truck cab, some weld on small pieces from all over to put a giant puzzle together. I love the flat rear floor idea - more space! The Tahoe/Suburban seats look delicious, especially the back that folds flat! Nice.
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This guy the Facebooks suggested today has done my idea of using a J-10 6' bed because a "short" four-door J-truck will be long enough as it is!!! https://www.facebook.com/groups/4493...1835978422558/

I too have been planning a four door truck for years. I originally planned to use an eight foot bed but am now seriously considering a seven foot (a short W/B J10 bed measures 7 feet not 6 feet) bed for the same reason. I am actually considering shortening a bed to six feet. I want to make a camper truck that I can use in undeveloped areas and I am not fond of the extra wheel base.

One way around the rear door issue is to re-skin the door with an outer that was removed from a front door. I plan to use a front portion of a rear Wagoneer door and a rear portion of a front door to create the door inner shell. Then use an outer from another front door to make a complete one piece outer skin. This of coarse requires three doors to make one but I have plenty of rust damaged doors that are good in the areas I need.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:02 AM
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Wow, the short beds are actually 7' long? That seems kinda I dunno, dumb when the long beds are 8' (at least mine is right at 8' anyways).

I was wondering why trickc shortened his down to 5.' I would prefer have to have a 6' for running a small slide-in, hauling, etc. If the short beds are 7' I guess that would have to be fine, I'm not sure I would care to go to the trouble to shorten the bed. It's going to be enough work as it is just cobbling the cab together.
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188- you can get by with just the one front by opening up the flange over the inner and then taking out what you need of the inner on the front, lay it in and locate to the window frame on the original wag rear, then cut to length and rebend the bottom flange and bend a new front edge flange. Issue will be cutting new slots for a front door belt w/strip for the moveable glass. (window wipe) Suggest to mark and do the slots before final assembly on it, as well as patch and plug the lock cylinder hole.
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Wow, the short beds are actually 7' long? That seems kinda I dunno, dumb when the long beds are 8' (at least mine is right at 8' anyways).

I was wondering why trickc shortened his down to 5.' I would prefer have to have a 6' for running a small slide-in, hauling, etc. If the short beds are 7' I guess that would have to be fine, I'm not sure I would care to go to the trouble to shorten the bed. It's going to be enough work as it is just cobbling the cab together.

Mine was a 8' bed, without stretching the frame that was all I could fit, not to mention the PO WELDED the bed to the frame so to get it seperated I would have had to almost destroy it to get it apart. The bed floor had rusted away long ago so they basically layed flat sheet steel in and welded the sides back to it, but the support members under it are welded to the frame.

Kinda just how it worked out...
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So you didn't stretch your frame?
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[quote=goldhammer]188- you can get by with just the one front.]
Indeed, in my haste to rid myself of my plethora of rusted doors, I have not considered this.
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