'Da Chief . . . So it Begins again

[crazydog]

Originally Posted by cu4whln

Brakes !


So - hubs with a Q trac? Figure there must be a Milemarker kit installed in the t-case? The hubs spin the prop freely when engaged.. so it must have a 2WD mode. Hope it's the overdrive one! not sure how to tell if this has the kit or which one. Previous owner had no idea.

When I got my Cherokee, it had hubs and the transfer case was full of ATF. I was thinking it had a Milemarker, but was not working like it should. Tore it open and it had some ruined cones. But, no problems with the Dana 300.

[cu4whln]

So - some progress...

Today Dave dropped the rotors off for a skim cut. lots of metal still there. Seems these may have never been turned before? Hmm. Oh well, I'll take it. Also put in all new seals, washed the original bearings down, packed them.. and ready to go . . . except I forgot to get the small inner axle seal.. Oops. Tomorrow.

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Then there's this U joint.. I "think" there may have been a problem ?? Can you tell? So a new driver U joint installed......

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The pass U joint has been changed and felt great, so I left it alone and added some grease.

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[cu4whln]

Originally Posted by crazydog

When I got my Cherokee, it had hubs and the transfer case was full of ATF. I was thinking it had a Milemarker, but was not working like it should. Tore it open and it had some ruined cones. But, no problems with the Dana 300.

Well, I hope mine is ok? So you installed a Dana 300? was the prop ok with the off center pig in the rear?

Also today - ordered a WARN locking hub set. Normal manual unit. Simple. Solid, not complicated.

[threepiece]

I probably have a chrome three piece bumper that you might find interesting. Let me know if you would like to see it, I am in Canton at least once a week.

I also have factory wagon wheels for the wide tracks but those will need paint.

Is this one yours yet?

[cu4whln]

Originally Posted by threepiece

I probably have a chrome three piece bumper that you might find interesting. Let me know if you would like to see it, I am in Canton at least once a week.

I also have factory wagon wheels for the wide tracks but those will need paint.

Is this one yours yet?

Hi Dan ! Oh yes.. I want to come get that bumper! and check out your latest projects of course. PM me your cell... I am off tomorrow..

And yes! The tan one is mine.. I really wanted another 2 door... that's why the "White Wonder Jeep" went down the road... it was SO clean and nice, but had one extra door.

[cu4whln]

Christmas already ! ? ?

Well, ordered hubs from Summit yesterday.. std shipping. They were waiting for me when I got home today! Nice.

And - I had a great conversation with BJs off road.. and have a LOT of goodies on the way. Santa is coming in May I guess!

BJs off road is always helpful on those strange tech questions... Love it.

Took tomorrow off .. have all the stuff ready to reassemble the front axle and brakes.. then start tearing apart the rear drums.. that's always an adventure!!

[red mistress]

Originally Posted by cu4whln

Hi Dan ! Oh yes.. I want to come get that bumper! and check out your latest projects of course. PM me your cell... I am off tomorrow..

And yes! The tan one is mine.. I really wanted another 2 door... that's why the "White Wonder Jeep" went down the road... it was SO clean and nice, but had one extra door.

It's not YOURS until you BLEED ON IT

[cu4whln]

Originally Posted by red mistress

It's not YOURS until you BLEED ON IT

Ha ! He lives! Finally recovering from that crazy cross country Jeep shopping trip. eh ? LOL

Strangely, I have yet to bleed much yet. Only a slightly skinned knuckle!

[cu4whln]

And in Todays News:

Front axles : Some assembly required . . .

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Lots of new and cleaned up parts . . .

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[cu4whln]

Just to remind myself next time I do a hub . . . I took some pics of the assembly sequence. Must admidt, I didn't remember clearly here! Skip this post if you know this already !

First: axle shaft in ... then the hub assembly. Be sure to install the inner seals FIRST [Oops !]

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THEN the backing plate .. did this twice as well.... Nuts go over the backing plate, and don't forget the 1 attaching bolt at the front of the disk shield.

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AND - remember to paint the hub outer housing.. it will show. I forgot, so made up this quick, high tech paint mask...

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THEN slide your cleaned and freshly greased hub assembly. I replaced every seal.... why not? It's all apart.
Use the first bearing nut with the pin facing outwards [ pin at about 12 'O clock position here before tightening]... tighten down, spin, loosen, tighten, spin, loosen, then very lightly snug it down.
Bearing is now ready to "Roll" [ Pun intended ]

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Next, find the groove, line up the retaining washer, and slide the slotted retaining washer into place.. the pin MUST line up in a slot! See it at the 6 o'clock position?

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Then, install the locking ring with the 3 Allen screws. I marked the 2 holes for tightening with a Sharpie. Tighten lightly, screw the Allen screws down.. they too must fall in a slot. this locks everything down so the retaining nut cannot unscrew. OK - ready for hubs . . .

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[cu4whln]

Hubs .. new units from WARN, the basic lock or Free kind. [ WARN kit/Part number 20990 ]
The WARN "Lock-O-Matics" I took off? For sale if anybody wants them.

First, slide the hub body over the axle shaft, then install the large retaining lock ring on the outside of the hub. There is a groove, you just can't see it!

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THEN - install the axle shaft snap ring.. it helps to push the axle outward to get at the slot. I did this with a large screwdriver against the u joint.
Then line up and start 2 screws into the hub body, push the end cover down. I added a slight amount of grease to the O ring to ensure it slid into position well and seals. Add the other bolts, snug down. Ready for Calipers!

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Done for the day . . .

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[cu4whln]

And you noticed... no brakes.

Well, seems the re-man folks at NAPA had a slight issue with one of the calipers. It had a smaller banjo bolt. So - I could not get the brakes done. They ordered and I got the correct one today. So let's proceed ...

First, I drained the 38 year old brake fluid from the front circuits. YUK. this is why I hope you all change the brake fluids once in awhile. I couldn't believe how much crud came out of the system. Remember, brake fluid is hydroscopic - ie it absorbs water over time. This results in internal rust to the system.

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Now the re-man caliper and pads go on . . .

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After installing the brake lines, opened up the longest line and added fluid.

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Gravity bled most of the air out of the system. Had a buddy come over and pump the brakes for the last bit.. and all good! Pedal is now solid and healthy!

Tomorrow - start the rear drum rebuild . . .

[Atla]

Good to see you begin your next build, but I think this is to easy of a rig to start with for you :P

Someone needs to find you a nice rust bucket with missing interior and a box of mystery parts in the trunk!

[cu4whln]

Originally Posted by Atla

Good to see you begin your next build, but I think this is to easy of a rig to start with for you :P

Someone needs to find you a nice rust bucket with missing interior and a box of mystery parts in the trunk!

Hmm, well thanks? LOL

Not sure exactly where this one will go or end up. For now, it's the basics and cosmetic stuff. Trust me, it looks a lot better in the pics then in person! Every area needs some attention. In the end, any restoration work takes about the same amount of effort.. it's the amount of money that varies greatly!

[cu4whln]

Yesterday's project . . .

Rear brakes. Gathering all the parts I need.. I "think" Notice, decided to replace the rear wheel cylinders as well. The old ones are not leaking, but as nasty as the fluid is, want to start with all new parts. I am sure this may be the last brake job this thing gets ever.

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Start the disassembly process.. forgot how DIRTY rear drum brakes are.. driver side lining was on the rivets. Definitely needed to be done.

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Get all the old stuff removed, take the drums to O'Reilys. Hmm, they say the drums can't be turned? I should have measured them myself.. not sure I am buying that. However, what I apparently am buying is 2 new drums.
I am going to double check the old drums at NAPA next week... the new ones don't have the cooling fins. China re-pops I am sure.

1 can of brake clean, some scrubbing with the small brass brush.. and ready to install parts. Rear drums are like a dynamic puzzle.. try to fit them all together and get the springs hooked up. "Lots-O-Fun" !

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The puzzle solved - all parts installed, ready for the drum. Notice, the new rear side pad came pre-rusted? Nice - and it was free! oh well.

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New drum installed, light coat of high temp paint.. ready to bleed the brakes. Which we do.. Carl stopped by to help this morning for a bit. He is a local Jeep buddy. Drain all the fluid in the rear circuit, flush with some new fluid.
Pump, bleed, pump, bleed. Pete and repeat until all air is expelled. Have pedal out the wazoo now!
Have proper brakes - with a park brake !

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And the refuse box of old, dirty parts ....

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[krek]

This will be fun to watch unfold.

I think we need to start a poll as to when this project crosses the threshold from "driveway build" to "insanity".

[cu4whln]

Originally Posted by krek

I think we need to start a poll as to when this project crosses the threshold from "driveway build" to "insanity".

Ha Ha MR Krek . . . YOU of all people! LOL I was wondering about your stellar build the other day. I assume it is still in limbo waiting for life to slow down a little and allow you some time to play?

I am pretty sure this one will be a LOT different than Madness. Again, I plan to go slow on this one and keep it reasonable for now. Maybe someday, when time allows, I'll dive into a deeper restoration. But for now, it's a driver for weekend fun and ice cream.

[cu4whln]

Memorial Day : Today was a day to remember our fallen and my dad... a B 29 pilot who is now watching from above. Thanks to all who have served, and are serving now. God Bless.

So.. not much Jeep work today. I did play around a little bit after family time later in the eve. I took the orbital polisher out, with some heavy cutting compound, and look! It looks like a Maaco commercial! Can you tell which side got some attention? Still needs to be gone over with some finer compound, then get a coat of wax... BUT - I am pleased that I can get some shine out of the paint for now. The cost? elbow grease! I love it . .

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[Eugene 1]

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[threepiece]

I'll take any of the rear brake parts in your "refuse box" shown in post no. 35 that you don't want. You can bring them with you when you look at my selection of bumpers.

I also have a few optional skid plates that you may not have and want.