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Old 03-02-2017, 02:40 PM
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Great build, by the way do you have the VIN and the production date (sticker) of the donor truck ?
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Old 03-02-2017, 09:10 PM
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Great build, by the way do you have the VIN and the production date (sticker) of the donor truck ?

I have both the data plate and production sticker!
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:31 AM
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Frank, if you can locate a small thick piece of copper, it can be pressed against a hole and make the weld metal stay on the general shape you need. You might already know this. If so just never mind.
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:43 AM
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I have both the data plate and production sticker!

May i have the data (by PM if you prefer) ?
I built a registry for the Kaiser rigs which help to estimate the production figures year by year
BTW I can share my estimations if some forum members are interested
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:57 AM
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Frank, if you can locate a small thick piece of copper, it can be pressed against a hole and make the weld metal stay on the general shape you need. You might already know this. If so just never mind.

I have a slap stick Al. The problem comes in that most of the real bugger areas that are pinholes have no access. I can't get behind to use the stick

I removed the projects roof skin yesterday to replace it with the one from the donor. Both sides under the skin, above the door frame totally rusted out. More fab work! But you know that drill.

Pictures of the above to follow soon.
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:13 AM
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I meant to ask you a while back, where did you find an acceptable rag joint that fits? I'm sure there is one that is a drop in from another vehicle, I just wanted to ask you first since you'd just done it.
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:18 AM
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I meant to ask you a while back, where did you find an acceptable rag joint that fits? I'm sure there is one that is a drop in from another vehicle, I just wanted to ask you first since you'd just done it.

I picked one up at my local auto parts store. Baxters in this case. Mind you that it is for a 80s Chevy as that is what that particular box is from. I have no idea if it was also found in a J truck or not. I only know that it had been replaced on mine. That model may have come with the truck new--I just don't know.

The rag is also called a flexible joint. If that helps in your search.
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Old 03-03-2017, 11:07 AM
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I picked one up at my local auto parts store. Baxters in this case. Mind you that it is for a 80s Chevy as that is what that particular box is from. I have no idea if it was also found in a J truck or not. I only know that it had been replaced on mine. That model may have come with the truck new--I just don't know.

The rag is also called a flexible joint. If that helps in your search.

For what it's worth, the rag joint is a "universal" GM type part. Just count the splines and measure the diameter of your existing joint and purchase accordingly. I have a brand new one that I probably bought on Amazon for my 68, but never used it because I converted to ujoints. I'm not sure if I have the part number for the rag joint, but can check this weekend.
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:12 PM
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For what it's worth, the rag joint is a "universal" GM type part. Just count the splines and measure the diameter of your existing joint and purchase accordingly. I have a brand new one that I probably bought on Amazon for my 68, but never used it because I converted to ujoints. I'm not sure if I have the part number for the rag joint, but can check this weekend.

The one I got was just the flex part and bolts. The joint was reused. Simple replacement.
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Old 03-04-2017, 09:13 AM
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May i have the data (by PM if you prefer) ?
I built a registry for the Kaiser rigs which help to estimate the production figures year by year
BTW I can share my estimations if some forum members are interested

PM sent.

I would like to see what you have found.
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Old 03-04-2017, 11:03 PM
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PM sent.

I would like to see what you have found.

I would like to see it also. Thanks for the work to create it.



If replacing more than the rag joint, like a donor unit, measure the steering box splines carefully. If I remember correctly, one was .780 and one was .800 thou.
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Old 03-04-2017, 11:06 PM
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Dorman makes the complete rag joint with the spline mounts. Or the flex part alone. Can't beat it under ten bucks.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/r...FQ6dfgodoxMELQ
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Old 03-05-2017, 10:26 AM
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PM sent.

I would like to see what you have found.

ok sure i'll post some figures next week

I didn't find the PM ?
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:13 AM
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More progress. Almost ready to start stripping parts off the donor and getting rid of the junk!

I wonder if the caption in the 1st photo is a misspelling or a psychological slip?





















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Old 03-05-2017, 11:44 AM
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ok sure i'll post some figures next week

I didn't find the PM ?

Dang! Here is donor truck info. Should be a J2600. Which if I understand it correctly is a J2500 with a 6,000 GVW




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Old 03-06-2017, 06:09 PM
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Thank you so much
It's a very early '70 J2600, same springs than a J2500 but with a different rear axle (Dana53). The choice of axles ratios is also different

BTW this parts donor has the custom cab option with all the chrome trim.
The J2600 was discontinued in january 1970.
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Old 03-06-2017, 06:41 PM
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Thank you so much
It's a very early '70 J2600, same springs than a J2500 but with a different rear axle (Dana53). The choice of axles ratios is also different

BTW this parts donor has the custom cab option with all the chrome trim.
The J2600 was discontinued in january 1970.

Thank you for that information. My basic truck had all the chrome that was no longer chrome......... The donors stuff is pretty nice.

I took just a quick look at the rear end and it appeared like a 44. Too da*n deep in snow to crawl under and verify right now!
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Old 03-07-2017, 01:38 AM
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My old jeep data books say that the rear axle of the 2406X (6000 GVW) or the 2406Y (7000 GVW) is a Dana53, but none of my rigs have one , so i don't know how it looks. Some forum members have this axle and could help you for an identification.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:53 AM
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My old jeep data books say that the rear axle of the 2406X (6000 GVW) or the 2406Y (7000 GVW) is a Dana53, but none of my rigs have one , so i don't know how it looks. Some forum members have this axle and could help you for an identification.
Thanks. I'll know it when I see it. Have not been able to get it in a position to crawl under for a look. Need to get stuff swapped around in the shop to be able to get it up on my lift for a good look see.
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Old 03-10-2017, 05:22 PM
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Looks like all the work I did cleaning and prepping and painting those D44 axles was for not. Because I want to haul a Blue Ox motorcycle loader and a Gold Wing motorcycle in this truck I am going to put the D53 stuff under it.

Couple of nicely refurbished 44s for sale!

Making progress on the cab. It should be ready for paint very soon!




























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