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Old 06-02-2020, 06:41 PM
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Looking from the top.
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:07 PM
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Just curious here, but in our FSJ's, I've seen defrost ducts that point straight down and some that are angled toward the center of the dash. Are both version not usable or do you know?
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:32 PM
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I 'll have to ask why he said I could not use them. I did look at the specs on the evaporator and the defrost port is 2 inches, the ones on our rigs are larger, so that might be part of it. Also the factory vents are a lot longer than the ones I'am using. So maybe they hit the Vintage Air evaporator are cause a problem with routing the duct work. Not sure yet, why.
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:52 AM
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nice A/C work full size.......

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Old 06-10-2020, 11:35 PM
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These are the hard lines from sonoraed for our AC.
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Old 06-10-2020, 11:36 PM
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Old 06-10-2020, 11:39 PM
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Hard line off the top of the condenser.
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Old 06-10-2020, 11:53 PM
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This is the hard line that comes off the drier and passes through the valance as did the original AC lines.
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Old 06-10-2020, 11:58 PM
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This is where I'am at. Trying to get the rest of my AC parts ordered this week.
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Old 06-13-2020, 11:52 PM
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Starting to get a few parts in.
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Old 06-14-2020, 12:09 AM
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I don't have the factory Sanden bracket, I have that York to Sanden conversion one and it's not going to just bolt in. The biggest problem is my valve covers are huge compared to the stock ones. The back of the compressor is right on the valve cover, I can't get it back enough to line up with the alternator pulley. At this point, I'am going to cut the slots on bracket longer and see if I can get it lined up to run off the power steering belt. we will see.
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Old 06-14-2020, 12:17 AM
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I tried to flip the bracket 180 around and it won't line up with out making longer slots and or re spacing the compressor on the bracket itself. Also the back right bolt can not be put in through the bottom unless you take the York bracket off or cut the hole in the York bracket bigger. I drilled the hole bigger.
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Old 06-14-2020, 01:38 AM
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I don't have the factory Sanden bracket, I have that York to Sanden conversion one and it's not going to just bolt in. The biggest problem is my valve covers are huge compared to the stock ones. The back of the compressor is right on the valve cover, I can't get it back enough to line up with the alternator pulley. At this point, I'am going to cut the slots on bracket longer and see if I can get it lined up to run off the power steering belt. we will see.
Since the root of the problem is that the valve cover is too big, what about having the valve cover modified? Seems like that would correct the issue without having to re-engineer anything. Monkeying with different belt drive setups sounds like an opportunity to open up a whole new can of worms. Just one man's opinion, and worth what you paid for it, but with all the work you've put into this it'd be a shame to take a hinky shortcut when the solution is so simple.

This might not make it any better, but what about finding a factory Sanden compressor bracket?
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Old 06-14-2020, 06:48 AM
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Yeah Dark, thanks for your input. I'am thinking the factory bracket won't help due to the fact, the valve cover will still be in the way. I really don't want to cut the valve cover and possibly ruin it. The easiest fix would be to go back to factory valve covers, but I like the way these look.
On some older A/C threads I looked through, I see a different style bracket that bolts to the York bracket. It's cast with four bosses that make the bracket sit up about a half inch higher than the one I have. Might try and put some spacers under my bracket and see if that lifts the compressor high enough to clear the hose fittings.
I'am open to all ideas on this, Thanks.
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Old 06-14-2020, 09:03 AM
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Sonoraed already made a hard line that comes off the bottom of the condenser to the drier. I did a test fit and it looks good. I sent him a few line drawings, and after a few text, back and forth, he was able to make two more hard lines. I should get them next week.

Nice AC lines!

I wonder if he kept the patterns? Maybe he could offer a few sets... I am redoing my complete AC set up as well.

Very nice build overall btw !
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Old 06-14-2020, 11:25 AM
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(I wonder if he kept the patterns? Maybe he could offer a few sets... I am redoing my complete AC set up as well.)

Sonoraed told me he could replicate all the hard lines he made for me, give him a call!!
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:57 PM
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Compressor is on. I had to cut the bracket up because of the valve covers I'am running, but it should work. The belts line up really good. Before and after of bracket

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Old 06-14-2020, 09:03 PM
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If you look at the pic, the belt is on the outer grove of the alternator and the inner grove of the ac compressor. That is as far back as I can get the compressor to go because of the valve covers. Some won't like it, but it's good enough for who it's for!!!!
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Old 06-14-2020, 09:04 PM
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Old 06-16-2020, 05:23 PM
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If you look at the pic, the belt is on the outer grove of the alternator and the inner grove of the ac compressor. That is as far back as I can get the compressor to go because of the valve covers. Some won't like it, but it's good enough for who it's for!!!!
You should put a serpentine kit on it! That'll fix it real good! I got one I'll sell you for cheap!!!
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