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Old 04-07-2020, 06:16 PM
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1987 J-20: From Plow Truck to Treasured Antique

I've been away from FSJ's for about ten years, but decided this is the time to get back in, while there are still some in existence. I wanted a J-truck this time, and finally found one that is pretty solid, especially for the Northeast.

It was a plow-truck, and hadn't been on the road for nearly two decades, but it must have been stored in a garage to remain as solid as it is. This is how it looked when I first went to see it after an ice-storm:



I got it home, de-plowed it, and started revitalizing it from its life of long-neglect:



I've been posting videos here and elsewhere of the work I've done, which I'll put links to here, but tonight I was able to remove the seat and carpet to see exactly how bad my floors were.

Surprisingly, the floors are solid! There is surface rust on the driver's side, but initial scraping does not reveal any serious rust-through.



The passenger-side is amazing for this area.



There is a crack in the rear floor behind the driver's-seat that I'll have to weld up, but it doesn't need full floor-replacements like all the others I looked at before this one.



There was an amp mounted under the passenger-side seat, fed by an unfused 6-gauge cable coming through a hole in the firewall without a grommet. I have no idea if I'm going to keep it, but I'm not going to keep it there, given how much space there is under the dash on the passenger-side without an A/C unit, but at least it's disconnected for now.



The seat is intact, but not great. I'd replace it with buckets and a center armrest if one came up, but for now, I'll just lube the tracks, clean the upholstery, and reinstall it. I think it has been recovered, but it does sag badly on the driver's-side.



I'm not sure if I can save the carpet, which smells of mouse-piss. I will try shampooing it, but a replacement might be necessary.

I'm very pleased.

I'll add posts below with the other stages of the progress.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:41 PM
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Straightening the Bumper

The poor bumper on my truck was bashed up at each corner, and also shifted over to the left by about 3":



So, a come-along and a snatch-strap on a tree in my driveway let me gradually pull it out into something resembling a straighter bumper.

Here is the video of the unbending of the bumper:

https://youtu.be/HdgnpbYqiLI

and here are the results:







It could still use a *little* tweaking, and some repro end-caps would be very sweet, once I painted the entire bumper. The corner of the bed was also pierced by the pointy corner of the bumper; I did start bending it back out, but it will need a good amount of massaging to make it good.
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Old 04-08-2020, 07:54 AM
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great truck
solid like you said
heck the grille alone is worth a lot !

good luck

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Old 04-10-2020, 12:47 PM
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Hey, another late J20! Always love to see that. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 04-11-2020, 09:12 PM
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That bumper video was AWESOME!!!!!
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:14 AM
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Repair Videos: Wiring

I made some progress at remedying the botched wiring on my truck, and made some videos of the process:

Taillight wiring repair:

https://youtu.be/qUpqDZrNGCA

Front Turn-Signal Wiring harness repair and housing replacement:

https://youtu.be/5vT7CcF6V6s

Next video will cover the rejuvenation of the floor with POR-15; here are the results in pictorial form:





I just put in new factory-style door seals from BJ's; they fit perfectly, and only took five minutes to install, which was good because the rain was hitting my back as I was finishing up and I wanted to keep the cab dry until I could seal up some pinholes and the seams with some seam-sealer.
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Old 04-26-2020, 12:44 PM
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I needed a battery hold-down; the ones from the auto-parts store did not work.

So I made my own:

Five-Minute Fabrication Video:

https://youtu.be/Eu8zTnK-Z-E

The the completed hold-down (not yet painted):


Last edited by Bob Barry : 05-04-2020 at 07:40 PM.
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Old 04-26-2020, 03:22 PM
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Floor coated with POR-15

Here's a video of the process of making the floors look like they do in the above pictures:

https://youtu.be/YgS1kee8Ewo
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Old 05-04-2020, 07:14 PM
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It is awesome to find some you tubers doing an FSJ.
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Old 05-04-2020, 07:38 PM
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It is awesome to find some you tubers doing an FSJ.

I'm more of an FSJ'r doing Youtubes, at the moment...

I've got more footage in the can, but this week of work will keep me from editing down my axle and carb videos until next week.

Stay tuned! (is that what Youtubers say?)
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Old 05-04-2020, 07:48 PM
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Lining for Bed?

I finally degreased the inside of the bed.

The bed is, amazingly, unrusted. There are some spots of surface-rust, but that's it.

I was going to POR-15 over the surface-rust, but what should I use to paint the bed? I don't want anything that's going to trap moisture, so I was thinking something like a brush-on epoxy paint.

I'll be using the bed for carrying things, but not regularly, and I would put down boards or tarps if I was going to carry stuff that would damage the bed.

Any suggestions?

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Old 05-04-2020, 08:10 PM
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Stay tuned! (is that what Youtubers say?)
Dont forget to like, share, and subscribe.
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Old 05-04-2020, 08:23 PM
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Dont forget to like, share, and subscribe.



Yeah, I haven't gotten the hang of saying that, yet...

Maybe I'll pick up the pace in future videos...

Remember to like, share and subscribe, though!
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:52 PM
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I forgot to say "Click Subscribe/Share/Like"...

I just finished uploading my three-part video series covering the operation and restoration of the shifter and throttle-valve linkage for the TF727 in my 1987 J-20.

Part 1- Disassembly and Description

[youtube]https://youtu.be/y6S1vmVdL18[/youtube]

Part 2- Modifying Shift-Linkage Bushings

[youtube]https://youtu.be/msj5p70jahA[/youtube]

Part 3- Reinstallation and Adjustment

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Sfzy4txmzb0[/youtube]

Here are the parts I used in this restoration, with links to the suppliers:

BJ's Shift-Linkage Repair Kit, Part Number:02-7530:

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/Automatic...gs_p_1813.html

Mega-Parts Throttle-Valve Linkage Spring:

https://www.megapartsusa.com/proddet...?prod=MP-KRS02

Dorman #14041 Shift Linkage Bushing Kit (for upper shift-linkage bushing at Steering-column arm):

https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-32111-14041.aspx

Hillman 1"x3/8"x3/8" Nylon Spacer Part # 880448:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-2-C...ashers/3012467
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Old 05-15-2020, 03:23 AM
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Darn, no pics...and YouTube is blocked where I am.
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Old 05-15-2020, 06:20 AM
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Darn, no pics...and YouTube is blocked where I am.

Sorry about that. See if you can access through these links:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/455ld6zrak...e%201.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/852hilbpr9...e%202.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/co8ne15np9...t%203.mov?dl=0
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:14 AM
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Darn, no pics...and YouTube is blocked where I am.
Pics would be awfully nice. Videos on YouTube (etc.) are great, and I do watch a lot of them, but sometimes it's easier to spend three minutes reading a forum post with decent photographs than it is to dedicate ten or fifteen minutes or twenty minutes to watch a video.

But then I'm the guy who would rather choke down a hastily assembled PBJ than lose six minutes of my lunch hour exchanging insincere pleasantries with a "sandwich artist" and discussing in great detail how much of each item I want and gee is that low carb and well a lot of people really like the peppers and how about salt and vinegar and and and...
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Old 05-17-2020, 12:22 PM
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This. ^^^
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Old 05-18-2020, 01:40 PM
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Lightbulb

I'll do pictures when I can, but this forum can be hit or miss whether it will share my photos from Google (even when I'm sharing them the right way).

Unfortunately, it's tough to photograph something when you're elbow-deep in grease, whereas getting the camera rolling for a video allows me to just do the work, and I can edit it down after I've showered.

Maybe I can grab some stills from the videos.

Anyway, next up in the video series will be the door weatherstripping, the carb rebuild, and the oil-pump replacement.
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Old 05-19-2020, 09:26 AM
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A couple pictures, then the 4-part video series of refurbishing all door mechanisms, replacing ALL weatherstripping, and making a new vapor barrier:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

Part 1- Disassembly of Door:

https://youtu.be/lD4PEVPuinU

Part 2- Disassembly and Reassembly of Vent Window Assembly:

https://youtu.be/UAd1fmWkYfo

Part 3- Reinstallation of Weatherstripping and Door Components:

https://youtu.be/-M72fkhXgKo

Part 4- Making a New Vapor Shield, and Final Reassembly:

https://youtu.be/UWWedDFfa-g

This video series is based on redoing the front door of my 1987 Jeep J-20 with manual roll-down windows, following the procedures listed on BJs Off-Road forum:

http://forum.bjsoffroad.com/forum/fo...l-instructions

Your procedures might different for rear doors, or power windows and locks, or other years.

The parts I used all came from BJ's Off-Road:

Door Handle and Lock Gasket Kit 2-door- Part Number:KIT-7505

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/Door-Hand...or_p_1557.html

2-Door Window Wipe Kit Inners and Outers- Part Number:KIT-7500-A

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/2-Door-Wi...rs_p_1552.html

OEM Style Door Seal - Front Left Door- Part Number:10-9001-A

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/OEM-Style...or_p_1890.html

OEM Style Door Seal - Front Right Door- Part Number:10-9002-A

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/OEM-Style...or_p_1891.html

Front Door Glass Slide Channel Aftermarket- Part Number:10-9012-A (2 needed)

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/Front-Doo...et_p_1537.html

Vent Window Division Bars with Seals Front Doors- Part Number:10-9038-D

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/Vent-Wind...rs_p_1548.html

Vent Window Seal Kit- Part Number:10-9038

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/Vent-Wind...it_p_1547.html

Door Lock Spring Kit 2-Door (2 springs) Part Number:KIT-7548

https://www.bjsoffroad.com/Door-Lock...ngs_p_153.html
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