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Old 06-23-2003, 01:59 PM
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Here you go Glenn



[ June 23, 2003, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: The Donzi ]
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Old 06-23-2003, 02:06 PM
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Okay, I want one. Where'd you get it?
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Old 06-23-2003, 02:22 PM
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The ram is 2x8 stroke from northern tool (73.00 shipped to New Orleans), the box was an autozone special which I drilled and tapped for 3/8 thread, my old one leaked like mad, and the lines are from a local hydraulic shop ( 13.00 for the lines and all the fittings.)
For under a 100.00 I can now steer in 4x4 on hot asphalt if I wanted to!!! Before I couldn't turn the wheel more than a half turn on dry ground.

I drilled the box along casting lines, and following a channel for the lower hole. In my pic you can see that it is pretty straight forward.
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Old 06-23-2003, 02:53 PM
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Wow! I've got an extra box laying around, sounds interesting. How did you attach the ram to your axle?
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:07 PM
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I used 1" flat bar and welded one tab on the diff cover and the other on the tierod.

Here is a pic of the tab on the tierod

I used a 2x2 tab on the diff cover, and a 2x3 tab on the tie rod, both 1" thick with a 1" hole centered and .5" from the end. I also used brass bushings with .015 clearance. Seems to work pretty good. Hope this helps...

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Old 06-23-2003, 03:09 PM
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Glenn, use 1in steel stock and drill it out to accept I believe a 1in bolt.
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:14 PM
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My ram came with pins that fit perfect in a 1" hole. I still had a little play but not too much.
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:21 PM
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Thanks Rockjeep, my 220 mig will be here in the next day or so. I'll start getting the parts together.

So 8" stroke gets you from lock to lock?
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:22 PM
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how did you tapp your box with out shavings going into the box? Looks great by the way..
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:25 PM
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Glenn, to be honest I didn't measure, I just followed Andrew's lead and bought the 2x8 ram. It is pretty close to a perfect fit. If I pull hard on the wheel I can feel the ram fight the limiter on the steering box, but only at full lock.
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:28 PM
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Is there a technical write up somewhere on the web?

Donzi, I sent you an email.
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:28 PM
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blt2krl, I drilled the box in a vise, upside down. Then I stuffed the hole with a shop towel and tapped it upside down, removed the towel upside down and used a small vacuum pump to make sure I got all the shavings. It really wasn't too messy but I was trying to be cautious!!
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:45 PM
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Glenn, here are some links to info that I used:
http://www.members.tripod.com/surfmac/html66

http://www.ifsja.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/...c;f=2;t=015846

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11857&perpage=25&pagenu mber=2

Just a note, I don't recommend tapping the aluminum caps because they are prone to failure. My pics should show you exactly where to tap, if you need a better shot just let me know. There is alot more info on Pirate4x4 but I can't find my bookmark (way too many!!!)

Hope this helps...

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Old 06-23-2003, 03:47 PM
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Donzi, I just thought of something. You're gonna have to do the high steer for sure if you go back to the stock springs. I have stock springs on mine and there would not be enough clearance for the ram end under the spring.

I may add a set of aal's to pick it up a little, I also added a winch today so I may need a little more support anyway.
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Old 06-23-2003, 04:04 PM
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Glenn, I'll check it a little closer tommorrow but the ram only sticks up about .5" above the tierod. I hope thats not the case!!! I think it will clear the spring because the tierod end is .5" below the lowest part of the spring and since its line of travel will always follow the spring it shouldn't ever hit the spring.
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Old 06-23-2003, 04:14 PM
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Well, my springs aren't new by any means, but they were in direct contact with my steering shaft til I added a .5" spacer to even the spring pad height up with the other side.
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Old 06-23-2003, 04:40 PM
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I've been looking at doing this setup, but I was thinking of doing a 2x6 ram and using a lever link... Ram attached to axle, a link connected between the tierod and axle, and the other end of the ram connected 2/3's between the axle and tierod... it would be lighter, would react quicker, and as long as the link was on the same axis as the knuckles wouldn't bind, it'd still be plenty stout because the 2' bore cylinders are actually strong enough to remove the knuckle from a D60.... and a 6" stroke with a 1/3 leverage factor would move the tierod 9".... I know, I always have to be differant... [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-24-2003, 01:36 AM
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Glenn, I thought you were talking about the ram hitting the spring. Ooops!!! Well, I was hoping that the drag link would clear stock spings. So all you had to do was put in a spacer on top of the pass. side perch? What about keeping the perches level???no big deal???or should I space both sides??

When does it ever end

I think if I have to weld on some spacers I'm just going to convert to high cross over steering.
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Old 06-24-2003, 02:12 AM
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Yeah, I meant the connection of the ram shaft would come into contact with the spring when you turn left.

I only put a spacer on the driver side since the spring perch that's on the diff. sits higher. Think I read about it on RB's site.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:13 AM
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Ok, I know what you are talking about now. No, the ram should be fine and if it does hit all you have to do is move the tab to a lower position on the tierod.

I spaced the driver side perch a little and cut down the pass. side perch a little so they are about even.
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