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Old 06-08-2018, 11:36 PM
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A minor update. Was getting ready to paint the dash and remembered I wanted room for more gauges so I made a pocket next to the instrument panel.





Next some pics of the glove box door.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:05 AM
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First crack at the glove box door made from the existing grill.

The frame has these studs. Cut them off and tapped those four spots for screws. Also ground some nut down and glued them into the groove.



Formed some 1/4" ABS for a backing. Had to be thick to hold a hinge screw on each side and to mount the latch, which I never got to.

Semi finished:




Gave up on this since it was too tight in the hole in the dash and was so thick it didn't look like I'd be able to make the hinge work since it would have to move outward quite a bit before it started tilting.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:39 PM
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The final version is two layers of 1/8" aluminum. The inner layer holds the flat head screws for the hinges and latch. The outer layer is for show.

I didn't want to trust screws holding in bottom tapped holes less than 1/4" deep if I made it out of one 1/4" thick piece.



Ready to glue together.



Spent a lot of time trying to figger out the hinging. Stare at it for a while and walk away. Waste time making parts that don't work. In the end it was pretty simple.


These are the original hinges with a little reforming.





Looks pretty good.



Bring on the Bondo!
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:32 PM
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Got the epoxy on it.




I'm really surprised at how little filler the welds will need around the panel I put in the center.




The welds around the pockets will only get it in a few spots.






Did some filling around the center panel but the stuff was curing too fast. Going to continue in the morning. Left the Bondo outside so it'll get cold overnight.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:05 PM
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Finished with the filler around the center panel. The Bondo was to thick, old? so I ordered some 2k spot putty. Much easier to work with.




Not so bad from this angle.




Still need some blocking to smooth out the flat areas.

I know I can get it better above the AC vents but I also know I could spend several hours on it and end up with it not looking this good so I think I'm done.

I think the only way to get it better would be to cast a sanding block out of filler.

I've ordered some base/clear in dark silver (grey metallic?) for it. I'm not going to try and paint something this curvy with a single stage metallic.
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Old 07-01-2018, 05:53 PM
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That is really cool, and undoubtedly took a lot of work.
One question, as i have a 88, but have acquired a 70’s and a 60’s dash and want to transplant: Did you need to move the steering wheel shaft cutout for the later rig? I have read (on here, i think) that the steering wheel shifted a little between the older dash and the newer ones. I don’t have my junk near me right now and have not measured them as of yet.

I am also planning to modify the center area to clean it up and use vents up on the dash instead of the ones running along the bottom in the stock a/c unit.
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:52 AM
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Your's has the integrated heat/AC controls in the center?

I don't know where the column sits on that version but mine is a little to the left of where the older dash wanted it to be.

Dealt with this quite a while ago but there are some sharpie lines on the seat so I think I did some measuring and the wheel lines up with the center of the seat.

Having the wheel offset from the center of the seat would have bugged me more than it being offset from the instrument panel so I'm pretty sure they all line up now.

To summarize, clearly I hope, the wheel is where it always was in the '84 since the 2 bracing rods behind the dash both fit and the dash was modified to fit this position.

Idunno if I'll use the '84 plastic trim around the column. It seems like it'll fit but it's kinda bulky. I thought about closing up the hole so the earlier trim would work but it's unavailable unless the one Men In Black is making works out but I think the '84 column is bigger diameter. I'll prolly end up making one out of ABS.
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Old 07-03-2018, 07:43 PM
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I just went back through this thread and see that you essentially addressed on page 3 by widening the cut out for the column and used the 84 mount on the older dash. I think that addresses my question and something I will have to consider when i start this process.
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:11 PM
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I always enjoy seeing what you are up to SJTD. Pretty sweet dash there.
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Awesome work and thanks for posting in my build thread, you have executed some great ideas!
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:02 PM
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243 Was asking for pichers of how I did the hydroboost so I figgered I's post them here.

I didn't want to use a long spacer on the engine side of the firewall so I used a piece of 1" x 4" tubing. The far side hole is big enough for the spanner to fit to tighten the nut. I've read it's ok to mount it upside down.



With no spacer the pin on the pedal is too close to the firewall. I put 1/4" thick plate on each side of the pedal. The front holes in the plates pick up the original pin hole in the pedal. The left side plate is threaded to accept a bolt since a nut would interfere with the actuating rod. The rear holes take a longer bolt that also pushes on the rod.



In this one you can see a bit of the master's actuating rod. Can also see the spacer between the two plates made from a split piece of 1" tubing that lets the bolt be tightened without squeezing the side plates together.



This one shows the master rod better. There's a spacer under the washer to make up the difference between the bolt and the hole in the rod and also allows the bolt to be tightened without squeezing the rod.



All this because I didn't want to weld on the pedal to move the actuating pin to the back of the pedal. I think it's cast steel not cast iron but I'm not sure and I don't like the idea of such an important weld being in tension. At least a weld done by me.

Also moves the master away from the engine. Might be a problem since I've been thinking about about going to a hydraulic clutch.
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:29 PM
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Decided to go ahead with the hydraulic clutch.

I used parts for a CJ including the hose that just needed a little reforming of the hard sections. I figgered if it didn't work out I could install them in my CJ-7.


I did have to modify length of the rod on the master so I used a rod end.



The master is pretty close to the brake booster. Had to mount it right side up so I'm going to make some sort of heat shield for the accumulator.



Slave mounted to the rear motor mount. I used a Chevy clutch fork so I had to make a threaded actuating rod.





Been working on the firewall sound barrier. I hesitate to call it soundproofing with a 70's era Diesel. Pics coming.
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I did my HB Years ago with all junk yard parts . I have put 15000 trouble free miles since . I did not have to do all that work like you did but its done . I have Hydrolic clutch trouble free as well . Nice job ...
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:00 PM
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Yeah, I can't do anything simple. That's one reason I'm still working on it.

Been working on the sound proofing.

I'm following the procedures recommended on sounddeadenershowdown.com.

The idea is minimal use of butyl on the sheet metal, then a foam isolating layer with MLV on top of that.

The firewall with the foam:


The foam's about 10mm, seems like neoprene but I don't know for sure.

Too thick for under the wiper linkage and kick panels so I'm using thin polyethylene there.

Set a row of rivnuts just below the dash bolts and at the top of the firewall near the cowl to hold the vinyl.
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I hate reading stuff like this! These posts give me too many ideas, which cost me money, which I spend, which irratates my wife, which irratates me........
Good work BTW.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:16 PM
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Finished the MLV on the firewall. What a PITA. Hope is does some good.

Made a template:



Trying to contour the stuff around the dash curves. Glued with PVC plumbing cement. Contact cement wouldn't glue this stuff even if roughed up first.



Finished:



Transmission cover and hump will get the same treatment. I think I'm ordering the carpet with the MLV only maybe not. The floor should be much easier to do with this stuff than the dash was. Gravity would be working for me.

Kick panels will get the MLV with thinner foam. Foam on the firewall is about 3/8".
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nice job.

I am sure it will be effective.

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Old 06-08-2019, 10:32 PM
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Thanks, I hope you're right.

A little detail on the MLV mounting.

MLV floats on spacer. Big washer contains it. This way the screw has something solid to tighten against rather than squishing the MLV and foam together and maybe loosening up down the road.






At the top of the firewall up against the cowl are strips of ABS instead of washers to support the overhanging vinyl.



Done with this stuff for now. Got the AC mounted and working on the wiring harness that goes under the dash.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:25 AM
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Awesome work! I love watching you guys with the amazing attention to detail. I wish I had the patience you guys do.
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