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Old 04-20-2009, 08:10 AM
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opinions.. build a d44 or find a d60

i cant seem to find a ford d60 front for my rig. i can get a hp ford d44 from a '79 f-250. someone cut the stub shaft out with a torch. so it would need a total rebuild. if i put chromo's and beefy u-joints, do you guys think it will hold up to some 42s? the HP will also help with me font d-shaft angle and the 44 is free and just down the road.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:25 AM
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I highly doubt that a HP44 would last with 42s no matter how well you build it. Heck even 38s would be questionable.

Why not use a chevy or dodge D60 front end? There has to be some of those near you.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:35 AM
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If a d44 is locked, it will not live long with 35s.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:48 AM
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I highly doubt that a HP44 would last with 42s no matter how well you build it. Heck even 38s would be questionable.

Why not use a chevy or dodge D60 front end? There has to be some of those near you.

Because then he would have to change to a passenger drop transfer case.

Get a later model Dana 60 and move your springs to the outside of the frame.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:44 AM
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35s is about as big as I'd go, and that's with upgraded shafts and Ujoints.

I've busted stock ones with 33s and a 4 banger.

With 42s, even a 60 becomes a bit fragile if you're locked and regularly romping the truck.
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Old 04-20-2009, 02:53 PM
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Hey do not waist your time or $$$$ remember what happened to mine in Cruces last year? That was my first run on the front 44 I knew it would go but not that fast. That was with the 36's. I could not find a 60 here either. Look on Pirate. I found mine there....had to pay freight but it will be worth it in the long run.
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:09 PM
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Find a 60.

When i did my SOA i went ahead and put flat tops and high steer arms(as well as ball joints,new axles joints and brakes) on my d44s. With 37" tires, i ran that for a season but with stock gearing it was sick anything out of low range. I knew i needed gearing but by then i knew i didnt want to put more money in the d44s.
Moral of the story...If i had found a 60 to begin with i would be about $800 ahead plus my labor cuz now those d44s are behind the shop collecting dust.

Find a 60 !!!
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:49 PM
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:07 PM
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I wouldn't wipe my *** with a Dana 44
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:17 PM
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you wouldn't wipe your three asteriks with a D44? lol.
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:39 PM
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I wouldn't wipe my *** with a Dana 44
Well, I would, but not for Virgil's application.
I watched you wheel Virgil, you want/like to wheel hard.
That's not really me or my usage, but for you, tossing $$ at a D44 will be sort of pointless.
Cash in hand (I know, that's my issue also) you are not going to make a front D44 ever be a D60.

Get some spare shafts, carry some spare parts and save the $$ for later.
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:47 PM
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For an FSJ I would go right to a 60. You will also need to think about converting to spring over. Mid 80's Chevy one tons had the driver's side drop. I just recently finished a narrowed J-20 front D44 for my CJ 7. It's got Reid knuckles, Dutchman axles, lockers and 4.10's. Will be using it with 37 Krawlers. I know even in a light CJ it is going to be on borrowed time, but who knows... My issue is that I want to retain the spring under and the 60 never came that way.
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:57 PM
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For an FSJ I would go right to a 60. You will also need to think about converting to spring over. Mid 80's Chevy one tons had the driver's side drop. I just recently finished a narrowed J-20 front D44 for my CJ 7. It's got Reid knuckles, Dutchman axles, lockers and 4.10's. Will be using it with 37 Krawlers. I know even in a light CJ it is going to be on borrowed time, but who knows... My issue is that I want to retain the spring under and the 60 never came that way.

I think you mean "still had pass. side drop." When GM went to driver's drop, they went to IFS, IIRC.
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:17 PM
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You are quite correct sir, my mistake
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:35 PM
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why go with a baby dana 60?
you know you want to go with rocks.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:04 PM
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I'm not suggesting a 44. But John Cappa (editor at JP magazine) is running 38's in his '73 J-10 with stock axles, (rear 44, 19 spline 2 piece axles, front 44, closed knuckle, 19 spline shafts). I know he's on "borrowed time" as well, but he's making 'um last. It all depends on how you drive it, what engine you have, and how you use the skinny pedal.
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Old 04-21-2009, 07:42 AM
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you can make anything last long if you have the right gearing and you are gentle with the skinny pedal. But, 85% of folks that wheel (remember, 95% of statistics are made up) aren't like that

I'd go with a 60 and run 35 spline if you are running 42's.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:55 PM
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I've broken a couple of u-joints on the 44. Which lead to breaking the shafts. Could not find a Ford that I was willing to pay for. So I am going with the Chevy 60. I found a Dodge 208 that will replace my 208 and drops to the right. Will have to see how the clocking works out and will have to modify the exhaust. Will post up when I get to it...
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:59 PM
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I believe the Dodge 208 has a slip yoke output. Just something to keep in mind.
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