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Old 03-17-2019, 11:14 AM
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Greetings all, recently purchased a Wagoneer off of Craigslist that was too cheap to pass up. Needed some work to get back on the road, but after a few weeks of work into it I've been DD'ing it to work every day for the past year. The interior was pretty well shot, so I gutted the carpet and seats in favor of bare floorboards and 4 Mastercraft seats I had sitting around from another project. I replaced the factory 1973 grill with an early style Rhino grill and converted the headlights to LED units. I also replaced the factory gauges (which mostly didn't work) with gauges I found on Ebay (GPS Speedo!). Converted to Fitech EFI last month as well, and am really liking the improvement with cold starts and overall drivability. Next on the list is to replace the lift springs that are currently on it with something that gives a softer ride. The approx. 4 inch springs that are currently on it basically ride like having the axles bolted solidly to the frame, lol.





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Old 03-18-2019, 06:48 AM
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welcome to the forums! nice looking machine.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:24 AM
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Modern technology . How good is the GPS . Do you ever loose signal from tower. Nice I like and welcome
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:18 PM
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Welcome!

Curious as i am looking into new gauges what brand did you use i like the look of yours?

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Old 03-18-2019, 11:11 PM
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Modern technology . How good is the GPS . Do you ever loose signal from tower. Nice I like and welcome

No issues with the speedo so far. It's a true GPS so it uses satellites rather than triangulating from phone towers. It takes about 15-20 seconds to find all the available satellites when you turn the key on, after that it's solid and dead accurate.

The tach on the other hand will occasionally freak out and read very erratically. I may end up replacing it with something else at some point, I think the stepper motor in it might be bad.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:20 PM
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Welcome!

Curious as i am looking into new gauges what brand did you use i like the look of yours?

Thanks,

Quad guage (not compatible with factory senders, but includes its own for fuel, water temp, and oil):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-in-1-quad...53.m2749.l2649

Speedo:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Arrival...53.m2749.l2649

Tach:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-0-6000R...53.m2749.l2649

Spaghetti time:

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Old 03-19-2019, 05:17 PM
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Awesome! Great rig! what's next after the springs?
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:11 PM
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Awesome! Great rig! what's next after the springs?

Thanks! Next, or in conjunction with the springs will be the axles and diffs. I recently scored a Dana 44 out of a 75 Wagoneer to put up front in place of the closed knuckle Dana 30 it currently has. I'll probably keep the same 3.31 ratio for street driving. Front end is getting a Tru-Trac limited slip and the rear is getting a Kaiser locking diff. I'm looking at running Skyjacker Softride springs for a Chevy Blazer, but am still researching what lift for Chevy= what lift for Wagoneer along with what bushings I'll need. Turns out older Blazer springs are the same 44" front and 52" rear as the early Wagoneers.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:11 PM
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Nice! Love the gauges!!

I have 4" suburban springs in the rear and they match pretty well the 4" springs the PO put in the front. Stock shackles. If anything, it's a tad higher in the rear.
Here's some stuff I copied and pasted from some threads I saved:


1963-73 SJ front springs use a RB-71 (RB-128) anchor bushing and a RB-85 shackle bushing.

1963-73 SJ rear springs use a RB-87 anchor (post) bushing and a RB-85 shackle bushing.

RB-71 1-1/2" O.D. 9/16" I.D. 2-1/2" spring width
RB-79 1-3/4" O.D. 9/16" I.D. 2" spring width
RB-85 1-1/4" O.D. 9/16" I.D. 2-1/2" spring width
RB-86 1-1/2" O.D. 7/8" I.D. 2" spring width
RB-87 1-1/2" O.D. 7/8" I.D. 2-1/2" spring width
RB-123 use RB-141
RB-128 use RB-71
RB-140 use RB-85
RB-141 1-3/4" O.D. 1" I.D. 2-1/2" spring width
RB-145 use RB-71
RB-153 2" O.D. 9/16" I.D. 2-1/2" spring width


"1962-73 Wagoneers use 22 x 22 x 2 1/2 inch front springs with 9/16 ID bushings on both ends, and 26 x26 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with 7/8 ID bushings on the post and 9/16 ID bushings on the shackle.

1974-75 Wagoneers use 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front springs with 9/16 ID bushings on both ends (the same as 1976 up), but 26 x 26 x 2 1/2 inch springs on the rear (the same as 1962-73). The kicker on the rear springs is that they have a 1 inch post mount instead of a 7/8 inch like the 62-73's - same spring - different bushing. The shackle bushing is the same 9/16 inch ID.

1976 and up Wagoneers use the 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front spring with 9/16 inch bushings on both ends, and a 26 x 31 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with 9/16 inch ID bushings on both ends. "


Hope this helps. 74 and up axles are 6 bolt, but you probably already knew that.
I'm not aware the blazer fronts are the same as ours - are they 22" center to eye?
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:25 PM
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Those "RB" part numbers for the bushings may or may not be current - my spring shop was surprised when I ordered my last ones this past year- they said they hadn't heard an "old RB" number in quite a while, so that's why I included the measurements - there might be different part numbers for them now.

There's a couple of companies that make lift springs for our fronts - I think BJ's has some if the blazer ones don't work out.
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:36 PM
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Thanks for the info Backroadin! I'm going to run the Bronco hubs and rotors in the front to get back to a 5x5.5 bolt pattern, I have all the parts and they look like everything should fit, but I haven't test fit it together yet.


I found the spring sizes for the Blazer here:
https://www.generalspringkc.com/product_p/22-384.htm

Rear:
https://www.generalspringkc.com/product_p/22-637.htm

They are both the same length as our Wagoneer springs (22x22) (26x26) but the Blazer is SOA configuration in the front, so to get a 4 inch lift with Blazer springs on a SUA waggy I'd probably need a 6 or 8 inch lift spring to account for the thickness of the axle tube. Been looking at these for the front:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1972-C...537c8085 04fa

And these for the rear:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Skyjacker-C....c100005.m1851
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:05 AM
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Cool - yep, 22x22 is right.
Should be a fun project to watch - keep us posted!!
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