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Old 03-01-2013, 02:55 PM
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Hello everyone. Another new guy here that signed up so I can pick everyone's brains during my upcoming project.
I have a '77 Wagoneer that has about 87,000 miles on it that has been in storage for roughly 10 years waiting for me to do something with it. It's sitting in my garage now, and once the weather gets a little warmer I'm going to get started. First up will be pulling the motor and tranny to change all the gaskets and fluids. I'll do plugs/wires/etc. at that time also.
It won't take much to get it on the road, but it will need some on-going tlc. For the most part, it's a pretty solid unit.
I'll get a few pics up when I get a chance.

Matt
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:06 PM
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Hi Matt, welcome to the fever. Too late now you have one, you're lost forever.. Same size as the old Blazers, a foot shorter in height, but 3 times the wheelin rig.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:23 PM
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Welcome to the EPA's hit list. Only flaw I see in your plan is the "first step" in your to do list. I've resurrected many old rigs that have sat for 10+ years and have never yet had a need to pull the motor and trans just to change out rumored gaskets gone bad. Granted full tune up w/new consumables stuff is good, as are ALL fluid changes (don't forget brake fluid), but the likely gaskets/seals to be bad are the valve covers, carb, pan(eng/trans) rear main seal of the motor none of which require eng/trans removal. Drain any and all old fuel from tank, lines, carb and fill with fresh fuel, clean lube oil, insure healthy spark...lit her up and see where your at. Unless you need to break open a component for repairs and then replace the gasket/seal anyway, I'd just see what you got and deal with any leaks etc as they show up. Just cause stuff is old and been sitting for years doesn't mean it's bad and needs mega work.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:38 PM
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Welcome and good luck! can't wait to see pics
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:09 AM
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Welcome aboard from Michigan

Tin Roof, the ice cream or the B52's rusted version?
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:09 AM
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:16 PM
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:39 PM
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Welcome, lots of great people here that love jeeps and help each other out.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:02 PM
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I am relatively new as well. You came to the right place, a lot of wise old Sages in the way of Jeeps and mechanics are here!

Good luck and can't wait to some pictures.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:03 PM
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No Need to wait until it gats warm Get r dun
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:35 PM
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Yeah! Get yourself a space heater and get going on it!

Welcome to the club!. You found a great spot to learn and ask questions about these rigs. Post up any questions, it will save you time/money!

And we like pics!
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:27 AM
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:59 AM
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Welcome!

Welcome to the forum. Be sure to check your gas tank condition. After sitting for a few years, my 79 had several cups of "red sand" (rust) in the bottom of the tank that would clog the intake after a few minutes. The 70's tanks seem pretty vunerable when left with fuel in them. I replaced mine with the MTS poly tank - all good since!
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:02 AM
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Welcome to the land of empty pockets and unfinished projects...
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:22 AM
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Welcome.

Dont worry about being cold. Frustration and rusty bolts can warm you up real quick...

This place has tons! of info in the archives and search area. Definatly worth a few Hours/Days/Weeks... of reading.

Enjoy it!
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:29 AM
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Tin Roof, the ice cream or the B52's rusted version?

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Old 03-03-2013, 08:45 AM
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OK, you've had your two days...
Welcome from sunny Communist California!
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Seemed like a good idea at the time...
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:47 AM
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Thanks everyone.
I'm looking forward to getting started.
About 10 years ago my wife and I were driving down a backroad and passed a local salvage yard. Sitting in front of one of their sheds was a white wagoneer that appeared to be in good shape. We went a few miles, and my wife said, "just go back and look at it so I don't have to hear you complain later".
I ended up buying it for $500. It ran, but dumped fluid from about every place possible. I hauled it to a storage shed my BIL has, and there it sat. The typical multitude of reasons kept me from getting started. Being married with 4 kids keeps the wallet thin.....
Last summer my BIL called and said I'd be losing my storage spot. So, I grabbed the car trailer at work and brought it home.
Here are some pics.








The reason I'm going to pull the motor and tranny is because I know it is leaking bad from pretty much everywhere. I'm too old and fat to crawl under it to work, LOL, so pulling everything makes the most sense to me.
All the trim pieces and hubcaps are inside it. The frame is solid, and so is the body. Whoever had it before had started a restoration.
I'm hoping to have it on the road by May, and want to use it for pulling my fishing boat this summer.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:03 AM
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Good looking wagon, nice straight bumpers, manual rear window, looking forward to progress reports on this one. And a shout out to your wife for making it happen.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:09 AM
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Welcome to FSJs Anonymous! lol These are a bunch of great guys here, and chocked full of experience and knowledge. If you need anything or have a question don't be afraid to post it.
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