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Old 01-13-2013, 08:45 PM
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Goodyear Tracker AT replacements?

My 77 and 82 Cherokees both were stocked with L78-15LT Goodyear Tracker AT's. My 82 happens to have the stock spare. I pulled it, cleaned it, and tooks some pictures of it. I am hoping you folks can tell me where to purchase a suitable replacement. I would like to find something with an aggressive tread that is very similar to the original. The new tracker ATs are not near as aggressive.

I would prefer to have newer technology and not poly bias ply. But I want to keep the Cherokee as original in appearance as possible. Solid white letters in the same size/ tread would be optimal.

I searched the forum and came up with these:

http://www.stausaonline.com/light-tr...ilbreaker.html

They are bias ply with hollow white letters but are very aggressive and look good.

I am looking for some suggestions with newer tech that sould be close to the tread pattern. Any suggestions?




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Old 01-13-2013, 10:15 PM
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Seems like your goal is the same as mine was. The look of the original blackwall bias ply traction tire, but in a modern radial.

I ended up with the Cooper Discoverer ST. They're more aggresive than the average all terrain tire, but not as much as a mud tire. They offer plenty traction for a stock FSJ. Pretty quiet on the street, great in rain, wear well, but are unimpressive in snow and ice. Better than most mud tires, though. They have the looks of an old bias ply with a simple tread and sidewall design.

Pretty aggresive tread:




They're a bit more aggresive than I need. My next set will be BF Goodrich AT/KO's. I actually think the BFG's looks even more like classic bias-ply traction tires. This 1971 J-4000 next to my Jeep at a car show has the BFG's with the blackwall turned out, and they look just like a bias traction tire. That was one nice truck. Look at the shine in the door.



My tire size was H78-15, pretty much the same as your L78-15. The closest radial size to it is 235/75-R15. A "P" in front of the 235 would be a nice riding passenger rated tire at an inflation of 30 PSI. An "LT" in front would be a light truck rated tire, and will ride harder, but is tougher and corners better. These run at higher pressure. The LT will also stand up straighter and look even more like an old bias ply.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:18 PM
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The Toyo M55 is the closest tread match I know of in a Radial.

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Old 01-13-2013, 11:32 PM
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Yep, and there's the Cooper Discoverer ST right next to it in the photo.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:40 PM
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Yep, I saw your post and I also love the Cooper S/T, so I figured he can see both, since the M55 tends to draw a premium while the S/T, which is not cheap, generally cost less.

EDIT>> Another reason I posted the M55 is it "looks" like bias ply. You see one mounted and they don't bulge out on the bottom as much as a regular radial, and the shape of the shoulder blocks gives is a very bias ply rounded-carcass, period correct look. You could probably get an even closer look if you went with specialty tires of america or coker, but then you'd just be paying for looks. The M55 is a commercial long wear rated tire and very popular on the city/state/federal on/off highway trucks up here in the cascades.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:11 AM
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I have several Good Year tracker tires in good condition that came from Cherokees including one unused spare. I would be happy to get them out of my way.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:54 PM
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I have several Good Year tracker tires in good condition that came from Cherokees including one unused spare. I would be happy to get them out of my way.

Thanks 3-piece. I'll PM you. Although I'd be kidding myself if I didn't say I was concerned about using 40 year-old tires. THe shipping would probably kill me too. My spare is unused, but it has cracks in the sidewall. I really don't think I could trust it doing 50+ down the highway.

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Old 01-14-2013, 09:10 PM
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I do like the look of those. It looks pretty square but the sidewall is a but fussy, especially up where it meets the tread.

I like the look of the Hankook Dynapro MT but it has this tread that creeps down onto the sidewall. It's more busy. I am looking for simplistic.


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Old 01-14-2013, 09:15 PM
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definity Dakota MT

Still look somewhat mudder on the sidewall.


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Old 01-14-2013, 09:16 PM
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Maxxis Bighorn MT

Not as square on the sidewall as id like
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:22 PM
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:42 AM
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Did you try Coker Tire? They might have what you are looking for.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:58 PM
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cokers offering Bias Ply

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Old 01-15-2013, 09:37 PM
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Honestly, I like the coker looks the best now, but seeing them mounted on the rims makes all the difference. Any WT cherokee guys out there using Bias plys or something like on stock Wagon wheels? I'd love to see these Coker's mounted on cherokee rims.

Anybody know the mileage difference in Bias ply vs radial? Seems like radial would be far better. Of course I know that has to do with the rubber compounds. However, the bias plys I look at dont seem to have mileage ratings.

I use my jeep for light offroading only. Mostly known trails that are well traveled or grass/hill/small rock off road stuff. I don't drive it long distances enough to worry with the road noise/quiet factor. Therefore, I think the Bias Plys may be fine. However, I have read that the ride with Radials is so much better.

Still looking for input here....
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Kelley TSR, I have them on my J20 plow truck, I like them.

http://www.kellytires.com/cfmx/web/k...fm?product=316

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Old 01-15-2013, 09:52 PM
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Kelley TSR, I have them on my J20 plow truck, I like them.

http://www.kellytires.com/cfmx/web/k...fm?product=316


not bad. The tread is square like bias ply. Sidewall a bit busy but still a good candidate.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:56 PM
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Seems like your goal is the same as mine was. The look of the original blackwall bias ply traction tire, but in a modern radial.

I ended up with the Cooper Discoverer ST. They're more aggresive than the average all terrain tire, but not as much as a mud tire. They offer plenty traction for a stock FSJ. Pretty quiet on the street, great in rain, wear well, but are unimpressive in snow and ice. Better than most mud tires, though. They have the looks of an old bias ply with a simple tread and sidewall design.

My tire size was H78-15, pretty much the same as your L78-15. The closest radial size to it is 235/75-R15. A "P" in front of the 235 would be a nice riding passenger rated tire at an inflation of 30 PSI. An "LT" in front would be a light truck rated tire, and will ride harder, but is tougher and corners better. These run at higher pressure. The LT will also stand up straighter and look even more like an old bias ply.

After doing some searching, I realized that Cooper offers many discoverer models, including the ST and the STT. The ST has a pretty clean sidewall. I wish the tread was a bit more aggressive. Otherwise, not bad.
http://us.coopertire.com/CooperTires...t=250&ext=.jpg
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Bias ply tires suck on the road, in my opinion. Suck enough that I would never willingly purchase bias tires that had intention of seeing road duty at all. They will not last nearly as long, they'll be louder, ride will be harsher. Oh yah and best of all they handle like crap by comparison.

Technology in tires has come a long ways, not an area to skimp in. Yes, bias technology has advanced a bit as well, but it's an inferior technology. Period.


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[quote=CheapJeepBrad]Honestly, I like the coker looks the best now, but seeing them mounted on the rims makes all the difference. Any WT cherokee guys out there using Bias plys or something like on stock Wagon wheels? I'd love to see these Coker's mounted on cherokee rims.

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I too like that coker look but not on a W/T. I had a similar set of Dayton pias ply on a W/T rears ago, the front looked OK but the rear, because of the narrower track width, looked deficient.

I' sure you wont get those Coker tires mounted on stock W/T wagon wheels, they are too narrow.
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