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Old 08-03-2014, 05:37 PM
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Bought something silly, need some help.

So this is my silly $250 weekend purchase.

It didn't come with a title, so that's what I'm going to start working on. Problem is I don't even know exactly what it is...







Based on the S/N I think it is a 1965 J3000. However, I'm not actually sure on the year, it's not really clear as per the article I found on this site.

Any guesses? Is there somewhere that a build date is stamped on them? Is this the only data tag?

Somebody used a torch to do some bad things to this rig, but on the bright side all the glass is good other than the windshield.
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Old 08-03-2014, 05:48 PM
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Nice!!! I woulda paid 250 for it.
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Old 08-03-2014, 05:53 PM
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The grill is worth half that
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Old 08-03-2014, 05:58 PM
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startin about 65'ish J200 ...

Hard to say from the limited pics ... smoe interior can help date ...

Or just use the magic ring on the Vin ...
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Old 08-03-2014, 06:10 PM
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startin about 65'ish J200 ...

Hard to say from the limited pics ... smoe interior can help date ...

Or just use the magic ring on the Vin ...

Hmm.

I figured 65ish J3000 (well, J3600 I guess?) because it is a low serial number for a range that I think started in 65?

J3600 because of the 3406X designation. Although, I suppose it is normally just referred to as a J3000? Or would they call it a J3600 on the title?

I had to leave town for work or I'd get some interior pics. The doors have been farmered, but the dash is mostly there. It's missing some stuff on the instrument cluster.

Magic ring?
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Old 08-03-2014, 06:15 PM
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Nice!!! I woulda paid 250 for it.

It's rough, and there's some serious farmer stuff going on. I wish they hadn't taken a torch to the body. I might have to look for some fenders. I can save the hood. Not sure about the radiator support (grill support?) or whatever you call it, they torched all along the bottom of it. I can probably cut it to a clean edge, not sure if I needed that metal for anything though.

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The grill is worth half that

It ain't perfect, it's a little bent and has some rust starting on it. I might be able to straighten it up and give it a polishing, I guess it could go to a hydraulic shop if the rust is too bad but I'm not sure what that would cost. I told the guy that I bought it off that the grills fetch a lot of coin on egay. He wanted to sell it to somebody that would save it in some form or another, and failing that he was going to pull the small pieces and scrap it.

So, I have to save it now.
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Old 08-03-2014, 06:47 PM
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65-67 J3600. w/ AMC 232 OHV I6.
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Old 08-03-2014, 09:24 PM
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Wha ?? never heard of the Dick Tracy Decoder ring ?
I mean the vin decoder ...
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Old 08-03-2014, 10:18 PM
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It didn't come with a title, so that's what I'm going to start working on. Problem is I don't even know exactly what it is...


Its AWESOME, that's what you put on the Salvage Title.

What goodies are hiding under the hood?

I love it...mostly because its green and has fat mud tires!
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:40 PM
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65-67 J3600. w/ AMC 232 OHV I6.

Can one be more specific on the year? I'm not sure how useless ICBC (who handles insurance and registration in this part of the world) is, but I've found them to be pretty useless in the past. If I knew the exact year they might be more likely to give me a title.

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Wha ?? never heard of the Dick Tracy Decoder ring ?
I mean the vin decoder ...

Er, yeah, that's kinda before my time

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Its AWESOME, that's what you put on the Salvage Title.

What goodies are hiding under the hood?

I love it...mostly because its green and has fat mud tires!

It's got a 232 I6, as said. It's missing the fuel pump, doesn't have an air filter, maybe some other small stuff is gone. Allegedly it was driven to the place I dragged it out of. It probably would fire up with a fuel pump and a battery. I honestly didn't look at it too much.

It has some sort of manual transmission and some sort of a transfercase and some sort of front and rear axles. I assume the front is a closed knuckle D44, but again I didn't really look at it. The rear looks like it's a D40? 2 Piece axle shafts.

The mud tires are SCARY! I have no idea how the rear ones are still holding air. They should go to a museum. The front ones fell apart as I dragged it onto the trailer.

I gotta do a lot of research now... I planned on getting a FSJ 10 years ago, and it just never happened. And now, here I am
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:59 PM
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Cool find!

Both axles should be Dana 44's




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Old 08-04-2014, 01:03 PM
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Cool find!

Both axles should be Dana 44's




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Okay, cool, the rear just looks weird to me. Not sure why.
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:07 PM
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Okay, cool, the rear just looks weird to me. Not sure why.

As long as it matches the front it's a 44. If it looks more like a Ford 8.8 it's a Dana 53.....cool, but unlikely.




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Old 08-04-2014, 01:11 PM
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As long as it matches the front it's a 44. If it looks more like a Ford 8.8 it's a Dana 53.....cool, but unlikely.




JR

I will have to look again when I get home. Like I said, I looked at it and thought it was weird, not quite the right shape and larger than a D44, which was why I went with the D40 thought (since that's plenty weird, and I believe Kaiser liked them for some things? Although, now that I think about it I believe the D40 is the same physical size as a D44?).
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:36 PM
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Never seen or even heard of a D40? The X model of your truck originally came with a D44 rear. On a used abused hacked up 50 year old Jeep farm truck who know's what could be in it now???
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:20 PM
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... Not sure about the radiator support (grill support?) or whatever you call it ...

"Core support," usually.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:35 PM
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According to the few data i got, it's not a '65 but a '66, built around june 1966 (one month accuracy)
For info no 232 rigs before the model year '66
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:12 PM
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According to the few data i got, it's not a '65 but a '66, built around june 1966 (one month accuracy)
For info no 232 rigs before the model year '66

Okay, thanks. It's definitely a straight 6 in it.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:16 PM
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"Core support," usually.

Cool.

And I can grab one from a later model Wagoneer or something like that if need be? I'd just have to remove a few brackets from it?
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:25 PM
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And a few more things I will need to know (but will look for since they're all noob questions, but if somebody answers before I find them then that's okay).

-Are other the fenders off other models the same as these? They are in bad shape, I think I can turn the one of them into something useful but I'm not sure about the other. How about M715 fenders, do they bolt on? Might be a more better look for me.

-Is the windshield the same as other models, and is there still one made that fits?

-How do I get the rear window out without breaking it? Looks like it's just held in by the seal, no polyurethane?

-Are any of the door latch parts available aftermarket or as a rebuild kit? Are they the same as newer stuff too? One of the farmer things is that the door handles and window cranks have large nails welded on them for handles. Kinda-sorta cool, but not sure that I want to keep the look. Plus the drivers door latch seems to rotate to the wrong position so it won't latch (probably missing a spring?).

-Why is there such a massive box in the engine compartment for the heater core? Do people change it, or is it not as much of an annoying thing as it appears?

-What tranny and transfer case are likely in this thing? Or is it more like I'm going to have to crawl under it to see?
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